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Old 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM  
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Expectations and Alex Smith

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:22 PM   #46
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as an opposing fan I really don't know what to expect from kc next year. New front office, new coaching, new QB, a high degree of roster turnover. All this makes for way more questions than answers. I know what Alex Smith brings to the table but that was with the Niners, I know what Reid brings to the table but that was with Philly. Mixing the two together along with a new coaching staff hampers me from making any grand prognostications. So here you go:

8-8

So, better than last year but not a playoff team. This record reflects one thing-I have no idea what to expect and it's about as middle of the road as I can come up with.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:23 PM   #47
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No, we didn't "basically" give up a 1st round pick. We gave up a high 2nd round pick. If you have to exaggerate to make your point then your point is BS.
the 2nd pick of the 2nd round, where 1st round guys get selected who slipped through the cracks when someone reached.

so it might not be a 1st round pick but there is going to be 1st round talent there when the pick is made, which is all that really matters.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:25 PM   #48
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as an opposing fan I really don't know what to expect from kc next year. New front office, new coaching, new QB, a high degree of roster turnover. All this makes for way more questions than answers. I know what Alex Smith brings to the table but that was with the Niners, I know what Reid brings to the table but that was with Philly. Mixing the two together along with a new coaching staff hampers me from making any grand prognostications. So here you go:

8-8
So, better than last year but not a playoff team. This record reflects one thing-I have no idea what to expect and it's about as middle of the road as I can come up with.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:25 PM   #49
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #50
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We gave up a high second round pick... a pick where you can still get 1st round talent.
If they fall into the second round they are second round picks. You can try to make your point by exaggerating their position, but if you have to exaggerate (essentially lie) then your point is BS. Too many of you do this.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #51
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:28 PM   #52
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If they fall into the second round they are second round picks. You can try to make your point by exaggerating their position, but if you have to exaggerate (essentially lie) then your point is BS. Too many of you do this.
No shit they are second round picks...

Second round picks with first round talent, but because there is only 32 1st round picks some will fall out of the 1st and be picked very early in the 2nd.

It's really not that complicated.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:28 PM   #53
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:29 PM   #54
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the 2nd pick of the 2nd round, where 1st round guys get selected who slipped through the cracks when someone reached.

so it might not be a 1st round pick but there is going to be 1st round talent there when the pick is made, which is all that really matters.
Or, as many think, there aren't even 32 fist round talents this year and the last few picks of the first are "essentially" second round picks. See, exaggeration works both ways. Either way, you are LYING to make your point. A second round pick is a second round pick and nothing else.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:31 PM   #55
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No shit they are second round picks...

Second round picks with first round talent, but because there is only 32 1st round picks some will fall out of the 1st and be picked very early in the 2nd.

It's really not that complicated.
It apparently is that complicated for you. If they are not one of the 32 top players they are not first round talent. That is the definition of first round, the top 32 picks. There are only 32 picks in the first round.

Unless there is some new math I haven't heard of where 34 = 32.
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Whatever. My argument isn't really even that I believe Alex Smith is all that good. I think Reid thinks HE IS THAT GOOD, and we will be throwing the ball A LOT. When is the last time we were league average in percentage of plays that were passes? I'll guessing we hit that in 2013.
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Why would you think a team with Alex Smith would hit league average in passing ANYTHING?

He averaged less than 190 yards passing last year....
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Or, as many think, there aren't even 32 fist round talents this year and the last few picks of the first are "essentially" second round picks. See, exaggeration works both ways. Either way, you are LYING to make your point. A second round pick is a second round pick and nothing else.
you are nitpicking

no, people don't think there are any top 8 picks this year. It's the elite talent that is missing.

It's a valuable pick and we flush that shit away by overpaying for Cassel's brother. Went got bent over in the trade and losing that pick hurts.
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Whatever. My argument isn't really even that I believe Alex Smith is all that good. I think Reid thinks HE IS THAT GOOD, and we will be throwing the ball A LOT. When is the last time we were league average in percentage of plays that were passes? I'll guessing we hit that in 2013.
I'm kind of excited about the passing game and what it means for the running game, especially if Alex can SOMEHOW complete some down field passes. I really really want to see Charles carve up a spread out D and break through to the second level.
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Whatever. My argument isn't really even that I believe Alex Smith is all that good. I think Reid thinks HE IS THAT GOOD, and we will be throwing the ball A LOT. When is the last time we were league average in percentage of plays that were passes? I'll guessing we hit that in 2013.
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He has nothing relevant to at any point and time when he had a coach with a winning record as a head coach. None. ANd he wouldnt dare post them, because most of the plays are smart plays.
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