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Old 03-23-2013, 03:29 PM  
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Expectations and Alex Smith

Just curious. Inspired by the ongoing thread about "Geno fan" expectations, and I'm curious what the thinking is on the other side of the fence. What do people expect out of Alex Smith over the next, let's say, 2-5 years? Specifics, even, yardage and TDs, wins and losses, offensive rankings, etc. This is not a thread with an agenda, I'm genuinely curious what people think, so let's try to keep this from turning into snipe thread #368.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:36 PM   #61
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You have to leave clay alone. His brain is on full melt down mode. So much so, that the poor guy, is using videos from when singletary was still coaching.

He has nothing relevant to at any point and time when he had a coach with a winning record as a head coach. None. ANd he wouldnt dare post them, because most of the plays are smart plays.
Oh yeah, I forgot that when you have a bad coach you instantly start sucking on an individual level.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:37 PM   #62
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Whatever. My argument isn't really even that I believe Alex Smith is all that good. I think Reid thinks HE IS THAT GOOD, and we will be throwing the ball A LOT. When is the last time we were league average in percentage of plays that were passes? I'll guessing we hit that in 2013.
if we really throw the ball a lot then i think Smith implodes.


hey ... who knows, maybe Reid will have the WCO short passing game going so well it could be handled easy.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:37 PM   #63
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He has nothing relevant to at any point and time when he had a coach with a winning record as a head coach. None. ANd he wouldnt dare post them, because most of the plays are smart plays.
You jerkstain. These are all from the last two years.





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Old 03-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #64
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if we really throw the ball a lot then i think Smith implodes.


hey ... who knows, maybe Reid will have the WCO short passing game going so well it could be handled easy.
Kinda like Cassel when Weis was here.

Gonna be the same shit.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:38 PM   #65
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you are nitpicking

no, people don't think there are any top 8 picks this year. It's the elite talent that is missing.

It's a valuable pick and we flush that shit away by overpaying for Cassel's brother. Went got bent over in the trade and losing that pick hurts.
this makes no sense, just because this particular draft doesn't have perceived elite talent at certain positions like QB does not mean that there's no elite talent at any position. In fact, this years draft is supposedly pretty strong for elite talent at the offensive tackle position. This is probably why Reid is willing to trade Albert.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:39 PM   #66
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The Jags are closer to a playoff berth with Gabbert than we are with A Smith.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:40 PM   #67
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you are nitpicking

no, people don't think there are any top 8 picks this year. It's the elite talent that is missing.

It's a valuable pick and we flush that shit away by overpaying for Cassel's brother. Went got bent over in the trade and losing that pick hurts.
We lost that pick for a guy that SF was going to have to cut anyways. There was no reason to give up a pick anywhere near that high for a backup QB that's been in the league for 8 years and has whose credentials are barely better than the guy he's replacing. It's like paying a new car price for car with 150,000 miles on it.
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If Cassel can win 10, so can Smith.

I don't expect much more than that.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that when you have a bad coach you instantly start sucking on an individual level.
And then, there is the crowd like yourself, who thinks that coaching has no bearing, and that the mccarthys , charlie weis, josh mcdaniels, sean paytons of the worlds, matter not at all.....

THose are my favorites.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:41 PM   #70
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Kinda like Cassel when Weis was here.

Gonna be the same shit.
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you are nitpicking

no, people don't think there are any top 8 picks this year. It's the elite talent that is missing.

It's a valuable pick and we flush that shit away by overpaying for Cassel's brother. Went got bent over in the trade and losing that pick hurts.
This is more of that hyperbole that seems to be all you are capable of anymore. You have no idea if Alex Smith is going to be as bad as Matt Cassel.
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Clay, if you wanted to because you are this big of a tool, you could pull up gifs of any qb in the nfl making a stupid play or ten. is that your perception, that the tom bradys of the world dont make mistakes? Like you know, take a safety on your teams first possession of the game for no reason?

Yeah, because tom brady did that. You could also pull up in the giants packers playoff game, you know the one where the giants destroyed them,, where rodgers completely over threw greg jennings, for NO REASON.....

Hey, you could even pull up peyton manning in the first half this year against the falcons where he threw 3 STRAIGHT INTERCEPTIONS.

so i guess with your ****ing logic those are all garbage qbs.
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We lost that pick for a guy that SF was going to have to cut anyways.
There were other teams interested. If he was cut we would have had to compete with them. By trading we assured we got him. You can argue that he is a bad choice (although it is way too early to know that), but if Andy Reid thinks he is the best QB available (and he apparently does) then trading instead of waiting for his release makes a lot of sense.
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You have no idea if Alex Smith is going to be as bad as Matt Cassel.
You have no idea if he's going to be better.

Especially since statistically, he's only ever been worse than Cassel's two best seasons.
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He'll average 10-11 starts per year, providing, roughly, slightly-above average production in these limited starts.

As he's done his entire ****ing career. This isn't a ****ing guess; it's based on a significant sample size.
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