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Old 06-05-2012, 01:15 PM  
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Court Says Gay Rights Trump Religious Rights
By Todd Starnes

The New Mexico Court of Appeals upheld a ruling by the state’s Civil Rights Commission that a Christian photographer who refused to take pictures of a gay couple’s commitment ceremony violated the state’s discrimination law.

“Elane Photography may not discriminate in its commercial activities against protected classes as the basis for expressing its religious freedom,” Judge Tim Garcia wrote in a 45-page ruling.

The case dates back to 2006 when Vanessa Willock tried to hire Elane Photography for a “same-gender ceremony.” New Mexico law does not recognize either marriage or civil unions between persons of the same sex.

Elane Hugenin declined to accept the job and explained to Willock that because of their Christian beliefs the studio only handled “traditional weddings.”

In 2008 the New Mexico Human Rights Commission found Elane Photography guilty of “sexual orientation” discrimination. The studio is owned by a young Christian husband and wife who based their refusal on their religious beliefs.

The Court of Appeals determined that a photo studio is considered a public accommodation – much like a restaurant or a store. As such, the photo studio may not refuse services based on sexual orientation or gender identity – even if doing so would violate the religious principles of the owners.

“The owners of Elane Photography must accept the reasonable regulations and restrictions imposed upon the conduct of their commercial enterprise despite their personal religious beliefs that may conflict with these government interests,” Garcia wrote.

The Alliance Defense Fund, a Christian legal advocacy group, represented the photography studio. They plan to appeal the ruling.

“Americans in the marketplace should not be subjected to legal attacks for simply abiding by their beliefs,” senior counsel Jordan Lorence said in a statement. “Because the Constitution prohibits the state from forcing unwilling artists to promote a message they disagree with, we will certainly appeal this decision to the New Mexico Supreme Court.”

But the court ruled that once a business offers a service publicly, they must do so “without impermissible exception.”

Elane Photography posed a hypothetical situation to support its argument – imaging what would happen if an African-American photographer refused to photograph a Ku-Klux-Klan rally because the photographer “wanted to refrain from using her photography to communicate a message that she finds deeply offensive.”

However, Judge Garcia said the argument fails as a matter of law.

“The Ku-Klux-Klan is not a protected class,” he wrote. “Sexual orientation, however, is protected.”

The court ruled that the Christian photography company must pay fines totaling nearly $7,000.

You can read the entire court decision by clicking here.

Todd is the author of “Dispatches From Bitter America.” The book is endorsed by Sarah Palin, Mark Levin and Sean Hannity. Click here to get your copy!
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:38 PM   #61
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Essentially.

It is humorous to look back and watch the left rail against the right when Dub was in the White House, and now to watch the right rail against the left with Barry sitting there. The circle of DC life, if you will.
Humorous, but only if it's someone other than SHTSRPAYER doing it, right?
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:40 PM   #62
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I doubt that you have anything interesting enough to say to attract any attention.
Scathing burn.

Maybe I'll just find someone to white knight from our evil overlords.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:43 PM   #63
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Humorous, but only if it's someone other than SHTSRPAYER doing it, right?
He's a worthless racist **** to be sure, but just for the sake of clarity I wouldn't be a fan of your mom coming on here and bumping tens of seven year old threads, either.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:45 PM   #64
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He's a worthless racist **** to be sure, but just for the sake of clarity I wouldn't be a fan of your mom coming on here and bumping tens of seven year old threads, either.
Thanks for the response but you're boring me now.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:45 PM   #65
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Humorous, but only if it's someone other than SHTSRPAYER doing it, right?
Ehhh. No anyone who trolls the forum by bumping is annoying.

I don't really want him to go away though. He provides me entertainment.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:48 PM   #66
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Thanks for the response but you're boring me now.
Stop being mad. It's not like he got permabanned. He'll be back in no time telling us how the country is run by nazis becasue we think bullying is a bad thing.
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:52 PM   #67
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Thanks for the response but you're boring me now.
There is always reality.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:20 PM   #68
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I think it's interesting that the nazi party was full of homosexuals. Did you know that most serial killers are homosexuals?

it's fascinating stuff.
The **** you say.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:18 PM   #69
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Stop being mad. It's not like he got permabanned. He'll be back in no time telling us how the country is run by nazis becasue we think bullying is a bad thing.
He got banned again?
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:33 PM   #70
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The crux of the matter to me is... so why did the studio/tog accept the job from this couple, did they not meet and arrange things?

If the studio actually didnt meet them and didnt know ahead of time what kind of ceremony they were taking pics of, thats one thing... its goes against that studios beliefs as people and a business model, and they didnt know it ahead of time.

But it sounds like they were the ones responsible for saying "no gay weddings"... dont take the job, then scoff at the point of transaction, they should clearly advertise their beliefs beforehand.

I smell a game of gotcha from the studio, itching for a fight... **** that, your job is to take pictures, if you object on certain grounds to given circumstances, that needs to be clearly advertised up front.

Otherwise, just take the pictures and take your money.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:45 PM   #71
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when you look at the bible thumpers of the 50's, protesting blacks and ending segregation and shit. It's basically the same shit. Religion is just ****ing stupid and hinders the progress of humanity.
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Old 03-23-2013, 11:18 PM   #72
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Interesting story but it's not gay rights trumping religious rights. It's civil rights trumping property rights, and it has been happening since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted.
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Shame. The guy has completely cracked me up since Obama got reelected. Interestingly enough Pat's favorite mod is the one who dumped him for a week. And yeah, it was for a **** ton of thread bumping. All to post the same shit in every thread.

Do we have a more homophobic poster on the board? Wonder where that comes from...
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Old 03-24-2013, 09:22 AM   #74
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Shame. The guy has completely cracked me up since Obama got reelected. Interestingly enough Pat's favorite mod is the one who dumped him for a week. And yeah, it was for a **** ton of thread bumping. All to post the same shit in every thread.

Do we have a more homophobic poster on the board? Wonder where that comes from...
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much...

And props to who ever put an end to that stupidity.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:38 AM   #75
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Shame. The guy has completely cracked me up since Obama got reelected. Interestingly enough Pat's favorite mod is the one who dumped him for a week. And yeah, it was for a **** ton of thread bumping. All to post the same shit in every thread.

Do we have a more homophobic poster on the board? Wonder where that comes from...
What's a **** ton? And how did it cause any problems at all? There's almost no traffic in DC at the moment. And whatever traffic there was, he generated it with his bumped threads.
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