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Old 12-19-2012, 12:02 PM  
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Sell me on Mike Glennon

Right now I don't see anything about the guy that I like.

I haven't watched any more than about 2 minutes of live game footage. I've seen a bunch of highlights of his throws on youtube.

I want to like the guy. I want him to be good so people will stop bitching about how supposedly terrible this year's QB class is, but every time I watch something of his, I get turned off. He's 2nd round material at best to me that will (possibly) get taken in the top 10? Some people even have him as the top QB off the board?

That's pure insanity to me.

Tell me/show me stuff about Mike Glennon that will change my mind. I promise to withhold all preconceived notions about the guy in this thread for the purposes of trying to like him.

Based on the stuff I have watched so far, no. He's NOT better than Geno Smith, and he won't ever be. But I'm tired of shitting on him when everybody is talking him up as potentially a good pro QB.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:42 AM   #556
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Old 02-03-2013, 03:54 AM   #557
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For the most part, yes. Especially the passing distance percentages. I mean USC and WVU run a lot of screen passes yes, but it's because of the huge YAC their receivers put up. It's not like they are check down passes.
i know, its just too bad that theres no such thing as yards after catch in the nfl.
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Does Glennon have any good highlight film...?

Any highlights of all his snaps from the sr. Bowl?
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:20 PM   #559
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Mike Glennon grades out as a future NFL franchise quarterback

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap10...se-quarterback

RALEIGH, N.C. -- Mike Glennon is a franchise quarterback.

That statement certainly will draw the ire of evaluators with a lesser opinion of the North Carolina State star, but my experience in the NFL as a player and scout leads me to believe Glennon possesses all of the traits to be an effective starting quarterback as a pro.

Measuring in at 6-foot-6, 222 pounds with A-plus arm talent, Glennon is a prototypical pocket passer, the kind that dominated the NFL in the 1990s and is still flourishing today. He is at his best when working off five- and seven-step drops in the pocket, delivering accurate strikes to receivers on intermediate and deep routes. Whereas some quarterbacks are most comfortable compiling completions on a variety of dink-and-dunk throws, Glennon is the master of the pro throw, which requires him to push the ball downfield on deep comebacks, square-ins and post-corner routes. Additionally, he excels at throwing vertical routes following strong play-action fakes in the backfield.

When I watch Glennon, I see glimpses of Baltimore Ravens QB Joe Flacco. These observations stood out to me while I studied six of Glennons's game tapes (Tennessee, Miami, Florida State, North Carolina, Clemson and Vanderbilt). I also traveled to Raleigh, N.C., on Wednesday to observe Glennon's pro day in person. Here's a complete breakdown of what I saw, both on tape and on the practice field:

Arm Talent

To earn a blue-chip grade in the minds of most scouts, a quarterback must display exceptional arm strength, velocity and zip consistently during his play. Glennon has all of that and might be the most gifted passer in the 2013 class. He has the capacity to make every throw in the book with zip or touch; he doesn't have any problem making rope throws to the outside portion of the field from the opposite hash. This is the ultimate test of a quarterback's arm strength, and Glennon passes with flying colors. In addition, he shows the ability to push the ball down the field 50-plus yards with superb touch and ball placement. Glennon understands how to change the trajectory of his deep throws to provide his receivers with enough time to run underneath his high-arcing rainbows. Given the fact that most offensive coordinators covet a quarterback with natural passing skills, Glennon's raw talent certainly puts him in the conversation as a high pick.

Mobility

One of the biggest knocks on Glennon is his lack of athleticism and mobility within the pocket. Critics suggest he's a sitting duck in the pocket, making it easy for NFL pass rushers to hunt him down off the edges. Moreover, critics wonder if Glennon has the ability to slide, avoid and step up to deliver accurate strikes within a collapsing pocket. Given the need for NFL quarterbacks to routinely make strong throws within a muddy pocket, the questions about Glennon's athleticism and mobility certainly are warranted. When I watched Glennon perform on tape, I believed he displays better maneuverability than he is given credit. While he lacks the quickness and agility to consistently avoid rushers in the pocket, I saw several instances where he would step up to deliver accurate throws against pressure. Now, these occurrences are not enough for me to upgrade his athletic assessment, but I've seen limited athletes like Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testaverde and Matt Ryan thrive within the pocket; I'm not concerned about Glennon's ability to make strong throws from a seven-yard launch point behind the center.

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Another area of concern regarding Glennon's game has been his penchant for turnovers. He has tossed 29 interceptions over the past two seasons, including 17 picks in 2012. Although those numbers certainly standout on the stat sheet, it is important to note that Glennon attempted 1,017 passes in his 26 career starts. That breaks down to 39.1 attempts a game, which is a lot to ask of a quarterback in a vertical passing game with a number of high-risk throws.

When I broke down the tape to discover reasons behind Glennon's alarming interception total, I noticed that most of his turnovers were the result of poor footwork leading to errant throws from the pocket. When Glennon fails to set his feet or properly step into his throws, his balls sail woefully off target. Additionally, he took too many chances attempting to squeeze balls into tight windows over the middle of the field. While some turnovers are expected in a high-risk offense, the fact that Glennon can reduce his miscues from the pocket with better footwork and mechanics is encouraging. Now, he must find a way take some of the instruction that he receives from coaches and put it into practice on the field, but every quarterback in the 2013 class must refine an area of their game to become a productive first-year starter. Glennon is definitely in that boat.

Clutch Factor

Quarterbacks must be able to inspire confidence in their teammates by playing well in key moments. From executing flawless drives in two-minute situations to connecting on critical third-down plays in a pivotal situations, the top quarterbacks in the NFL thrive under pressure. Glennon strikes me as a player who plays well in big games. This was particularly evident when I watched him lead his squad back from deficits against Florida State and North Carolina. He was outstanding in the UNC game in particular, rallying his team from a 25-7 deficit. He finished the game completing 29 of 52 passes for 462 yards with five touchdowns and two interceptions. If not for the fact that his receivers dropped 11 balls in that contest, Glennon might have tossed for 500-plus yards against the Tar Heels.

Against Florida State, Glennon directed his troops back from an early 16-0 deficit to knock off the Seminoles at Carter-Finley Stadium. In doing so, he connected on 30 of 55 passes for 259 yards with two touchdowns, including the game-winner with two seconds remaining on the clock. Most importantly, he converted three fourth-down passes, including one inside the 15-yard line on the game-winning drive. Given the importance of playing well in key moments, Glennon's display of poise and composure in the clutch suggests to me that he possesses the right mental makeup to be successful in the NFL.

Workout Evaluation

As I mentioned on "Path to the Draft", Glennon's workout wasn't your typical scripted performance designed to mask a quarterback's deficiencies. The N.C. State star primarily threw intermediate or vertical throws throughout the workout. From a series of deep comebacks and post-corners to a variety of deep crossers, post- and go-routes down the field, Glennon let it fly in front of 38 coaches and scouts (including Buffalo Bills assistant general manager Doug Whaley and New York Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg). He showcased his exceptional arm strength and talent in a challenging workout that featured every conceivable throw in a playbook deeply rooted in West Coast offense concepts or three-digit passing game principles. Moreover, he gave evaluators the opportunity to see him make throws that are customarily reserved for NFL quarterbacks on Sundays.



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It did not go unnoticed by the scouts in attendance. Following the pro day, I talked to several who left impressed with the structure of the workout and Glennon's performance on the day. Although he missed a handful of throws on intermediate routes, he showed his capacity to make line drive throws through a slight headwind. For teams located in climates where the weather plays a factor near the end of the season (New York Jets, Buffalo and Cleveland, in particular), Glennon's ability to execute in those unfavorable conditions will carry weight in the final evaluation.

If I had to point out a few areas of concern based on the workout, I would continue to point to Glennon's ability to make accurate throws out of rhythm. By that, I mean he must continue to demonstrate to coaches and scouts that he can drop back, move to his right or left, reset his feet and deliver accurate strikes down the field. In the NFL, the pocket routinely breaks down and elite quarterbacks find a way to maneuver within the pocket to make accurate throws. Glennon's limited athleticism could lead to some issues at the next level; he must continue to refine his footwork, agility and body control to ensure consistent throws from the pocket.

Finally, Glennon must convince coaches and scouts he has the right personality to take charge in the locker room. Franchise quarterbacks must be able to inspire confidence in their teammates through their performance and verbal prodding. Even quiet leaders like Eli Manning and Joe Flacco have to step up and hold their teammates accountable by challenging them in one-on-one or small group confrontations. Evaluators still have concerns about whether Glennon possesses that take-charge personality. When I asked Glennon about this following the workout, he pointed to the leadership styles of Manning and Flacco as examples of how he envisions his personality evolving at the next level. Furthermore, he told me to ask his teammates if they believed he had the moxie to be a leader at the highest level. If Glennon can remain steadfast in his belief in his leadership style and convince enough personnel men that he is capable of leading a team in the right direction, he can certainly build a case to be one of the top quarterbacks selected in the draft.

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I've been one of Mike Glennon's biggest fans since the middle of the season. I believe he has all the physical tools that you covet at the position. I respect his intelligence (Glennon already has obtained a master's degree in liberal arts to accompany an undergraduate degree in business administration) and football savvy. I believe he is a second-round talent with the ability to emerge as a star in the right system.

In my opinion, the right system should consist of a philosophy that features a dominant downhill running game complemented by a vertical passing attack. From a personnel standpoint, it will be important for the team that acquires Glennon to have a workhorse running back in place to facilitate an effective play-action passing game. If I had to point to a blueprint for success for Glennon, I would point to the Atlanta Falcons' development of Matt Ryan. Thomas Dimitroff provided his franchise quarterback with multiple threats in the passing game, and surrounded him with a solid offensive line. If a team is willing to do the same for Glennon, he could also emerge as a franchise quarterback capable of leading a team into the postseason.
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Old 03-21-2013, 02:57 PM   #560
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Where is he projected now?

Havent heard much about him in the past month.... I would take him at this point at the right pick.
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I wouldn't be shocked to see Houston draft him.
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I wouldn't be shocked to see Houston draft him.
I see them in the same situation as we are at the QB position. Veteran QB with a backup that the coaching staff is high on. I think they are happy with Yates as their backup. Like us, I don't see them drafting a QB till the later rounds and I am betting Glennon will be gone no lter than rnd 3.
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I doubt Glennon makes it out of the first. If he lasts till the mid 20s I bet somebody moves up for him.
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I see them in the same situation as we are at the QB position. Veteran QB with a backup that the coaching staff is high on. I think they are happy with Yates as their backup. Like us, I don't see them drafting a QB till the later rounds and I am betting Glennon will be gone no lter than rnd 3.
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