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Old 03-25-2013, 05:23 PM  
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DHS To Buy 360,000 More Rounds of Hollow Point Ammunition

Arms build-up continues as Congress demands answers

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
March 25, 2013

While the Department of Homeland Security continues to ignore members of Congress demanding to know why the federal agency is engaged in an apparent arms build-up, the DHS has just announced it plans to purchase another 360,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition to add to the roughly 2 billion bullets already bought over the past year.

A solicitation on the Federal Business Opportunities website details the DHS’ plan to purchase 360,000 rounds of “Commercial leaded training ammo (CLTA) Pistol .40 caliber 165 grain, jacketed hollow point.” The bullets are to be delivered to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico, the same destination for 240,000 hollow point rounds which were purchased only last month.

Although the DHS has attempted to explain its mammoth purchase of ammunition by claiming the bullets are being acquired in bulk to save money and that they are for training purposes only, this has been disputed by reputable voices such as former Marine Richard Mason, who told reporters with WHPTV News in Pennsylvania earlier this month, “We never trained with hollow points, we didn’t even see hollow points my entire four and a half years in the Marine Corps.”

Hollow point bullets are almost twice as expensive as full metal jackets, therefore the DHS’ explanation that it is buying huge quantities in bulk to “save money” doesn’t make sense.

As we reported yesterday, concerns about the apparent arms build-up are growing, with retired United States Army Captain Terry M. Hestilow sending a letter to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) warning that the ammo purchases represent “a bold threat of war by that agency (DHS), and the Obama administration, against the citizens of the United States of America.”

Questions from members of Congress about why the federal agency is buying up ammo, exacerbating shortages across the country, have been met with silence.

- Kansas Congressman Timothy Huelscamp said last week that threats should be made to withdraw funding from the DHS if it didn’t explain why it was purchasing so many bullets, remarking, “They have no answer for that question. They refuse to answer to answer that.”

- Earlier this month, New Jersey Congressman Leonard Lance said, “Congress has a responsibility to ask Secretary Napolitano as to exactly why these purchases have occurred,” signaling his intention to get answers.

- Californian Congressman Doug LaMalfa and 14 of his House colleagues have written a letter to the Department of Homeland Security asking if the purchases are, “being conducted in a manner that strategically denies the American people access to ammunition.”

Although members of Congress are treating the matter with the seriousness it deserves, the mainstream and leftist media have attempted to ridicule the entire issue as a conspiracy theory, with Atlantic Wire even suggesting that the story had its origins in a debunked email, a report that completely failed to even mention the admitted fact that the DHS had purchased around 2 billion bullets.

While the DHS continues to purchase bullets in large quantities, police departments have been forced to barter amongst each other in a desperate scramble to meet their ammo needs.

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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Infowars.com and Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a host for Infowars Nightly News.


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Old 03-25-2013, 09:56 PM   #46
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I'm sure you've been to them all as well.....
Never said I have pete. I have been to at least 5 different ranges though. None of them prohibited hollows.
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Most people plink with FMJ. However, I've seen and heard multiple range workers encourage people to shoot what they plan to load in the gun. They don't tell them to run through a whole box but they tell them they should practice with it on occasion. I've seen several people at the range run through hollow tips too.

This could be, well, because Texas. But I could see it in other states too.
I run HP's through my hand guns occasionally (except my .500) just to make sure I'm still true. However, I bet it's a 50 to 1 ratio over the course of a year. Hunting rifles, it's probably about 8 to 1.
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I run HP's through my hand guns occasionally (except my .500) just to make sure I'm still true. However, I bet it's a 50 to 1 ratio over the course of a year. Hunting rifles, it's probably about 8 to 1.
I put about 800 rounds a month through my .40 and I have shot all of 14 JHP's. I don't see a point in it....(yuck yuck yuck)...get it? No point???


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How often do they run through boxes of hollow points? I'll bet not often at all. It's a giant ****ing waste of money. That's why people like Winchester make a "training" round and a "personal protection" round that are very similar.

I would imagine not often. Like I said, the guys at the ranges would encourage people to practice with what they plan to load on occasion. They didn't say run through boxes of it.

I don't practice with hollows. Never have, never will. It is a waste of money IMO. But to act like no one says to practice with it or like no one practices with it is CoMo like.
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Exactly. I keep my primary defensive pistol loaded with six Glasers and hollow points. There's no reason to practice with it. I guess if you're a government goon and it's just another box of free ammo to grab that might change, but as has been stated by everybody who isn't a ****ing retard, hollow points have one purpose, and shooting paper targets ain't it.
Agreed.

If I had free hollow points, I'd probably hoard them and still practice with the cheaper stuff
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That reminds me - I need to get some Glasers for the new .45.
I tell you right now finding good JHP's is tough. At least for the .40. I am grabbing a box or two of them every time I get a chance.
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I run HP's through my hand guns occasionally (except my .500) just to make sure I'm still true. However, I bet it's a 50 to 1 ratio over the course of a year. Hunting rifles, it's probably about 8 to 1.
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Agreed.

If I had free hollow points, I'd probably hoard them and still practice with the cheaper stuff
Same here!!!
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See pete.
On occassion does not equal "that's all I practice with".
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On occassion does not equal "that's all I practice with".
Pete, please point out where I ever said or implied that.
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Pete, please point out where I ever said or implied that.
I am not saying you did. I am saying that is the implication that DHS is giving us and Cosmo seems to support.

Let's just assume DHS does use nothing but JHP's for their training. I think that's a good spot to cut some $ right there. But I don't believe that's true.
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I tell you right now finding good JHP's is tough. At least for the .40. I am grabbing a box or two of them every time I get a chance.
That's the beauty of reloading - I'll make my own!
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That's the beauty of reloading - I'll make my own!
I am wanting to get into reloading but yeah, good luck right now. Obama & Co. are keeping the shelves empty.
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My dad tried teaching me to reload when I was in high school. I should've paid more attention.
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