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Old 03-27-2013, 03:42 PM  
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Creationist offers $10K to prove Bible wrong

Creationist offers $10K to prove Bible wrong
Betting that science supports Genesis and not Darwin.

By Rich_Maloof

A die-hard creationist is putting his money where his faith is.
Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo believes unequivocally that the Bible's book of Genesis is a literal account of our universe's origin. Standing firmly behind his convictions, which he believes can be scientifically demonstrated, Mastropaolo has issued a challenge: Anyone who can prove, using hard evidence, that science contradicts the literal reading of Genesis walks away $10,000 richer.

Be warned: You don't want to sign up for this challenge without your facts in order. Contestants must arrive ready to argue their position against Mastropaolo with their own $10k in hand — and be willing to lose the money if Mastropaolo's scientific evidence of creationism prevails. So it's not so much a reward situation as a high-stakes bet. Whether or not the Bible says gambling is a sin remains a debate for another time.

The Literal Genesis Trial Contest is detailed at the Creation Science Hall of Fame — "Honoring those who honored God's Word as literally written in Genesis" — where the challenge is addressed, in good competitive spirit, to theistic evolutionists, allegoricallists, and "all you 'Long Agers.'"

According to contest rules, a mini-trial will be held in a courthouse where the contestant and Mastropaolo are to each put $10,000 in escrow. A superior court justice will decide which party prevails and is awarded the $20,000. (The Creation Science Hall of Fame is hosting the challenge but says it is not a party to the judge or any other entity involved.)

If you plan on arriving with a high schooler's grasp of evolution and a copy of Darwin's "On the Origin of Species," well, may God be with you. Mastropaolo is a highly educated, highly accomplished scientist. He's a recognized expert in kinesiology (the scientific study of body movement, aka human kinetics) and a recipient of Vice Presidential Awards for his studies on life in space.
And he believes that evolution cannot be proved.

"[Evolutionists] are not stupid people," Mastropaolo told The Guardian. "They are bright, but they are bright enough to know there is no scientific evidence they can give in a mini-trial."

Mastropaolo's bio indicates he has already scientifically proved that Adam and Eve were genetically perfect, that "ape-men are frauds" and that the Earth is 6,800 years old, give or take eight and a half centuries.

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Old 03-28-2013, 08:56 AM   #31
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This is hilarious, as this thread, like the quoted Zimmerman article, doesn't even realize that your own written words are all the evidence needed to see an idiot wrote them ( educated are not - still very much an idiot ). Evolutionist are so amusing - you have no single present day living example of proof, ( don't even try the moth pigment in Europe or viruses -that's just childish retorts ), no more a 'rational' explanation for the start of the universe and life ( everything from crystals to aliens to spontaneous wasn't and then was - without 'god' of course - and complete with a bang! ), and yet you constantly criticize words from a book that has been proven to be the most accurate single collection of recorded history of its timespan. Truly, atheist are the most retarded degenerates of the world that love to advertise it.
Ah yes, another example of someone who has no idea what evolution is.

Also, evolutionist does not always equal atheist despite what your science hating pastor tells you.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:07 AM   #32
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This is hilarious, as this thread, like the quoted Zimmerman article, doesn't even realize that your own written words are all the evidence needed to see an idiot wrote them ( educated are not - still very much an idiot ). Evolutionist are so amusing - you have no single present day living example of proof, ( don't even try the moth pigment in Europe or viruses -that's just childish retorts ), no more a 'rational' explanation for the start of the universe and life ( everything from crystals to aliens to spontaneous wasn't and then was - without 'god' of course - and complete with a bang! ), and yet you constantly criticize words from a book that has been proven to be the most accurate single collection of recorded history of its timespan. Truly, atheist are the most retarded degenerates of the world that love to advertise it.
There are actually countless living examples of evolution to use as proof. Darwin's Galapagos Finches are a good example. We've been able to observe the evolution of these finches directly from their common ancestor. And the variety and changes in these species of birds from their common ancestor is quite striking. This is just one of thousands upon thousands of examples.



But you're right. Evolution cannot answer the question of how life was initially created. No different than how religion cannot answer how their God was supposedly created. There are some good ideas. But the scientific ones don't actually involves crystals or aliens or anything silly like that. Crystals? LOL?
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:12 AM   #33
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But you're right. Evolution cannot answer the question of how life was initially created. No different than how religion cannot answer how their God was supposedly created. There are some good ideas. [/QUOTE]

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Old 03-28-2013, 09:18 AM   #34
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"The foundation of evolution is abiogenesis, life spontaneously generated from nonlife." In fact, evolution and the origin of life are completely separate disciplines, asking different questions and using different methodologies. This is a point clearly made in high school and middle school biology classes.
This pretty much answers Lithiums drunken post...
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:21 AM   #35
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I have a question regarding the "book that has been proven to be the most accurate single collection of recorded history of its timespan". After Cain killed Abel, fled the Garden of Eden, and then found a wife: Where did his wife come from?

His wife came from the pre-existing peoples on Earth, who's predecessors were all alive when Adam & Eve were created. The Bible doesn't ever say Adam & Eve were the first humans, only that they were created by God and placed in the Garden Of Eden and the start of Jesus' "royal lineage".


The Creationists that take the creation story literally and assume they were the first humans miss the part of the story you refer to: where the Bible clearly states Cain goes out "for fear of" the peoples of the Earth who he feels will try to kill him.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:23 AM   #36
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than it actually effects the country in a positive way to rid it of this curse of mental infancy?
That is your opinion & nothing more Dave.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:26 AM   #37
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I don't think you can prove the bible wrong, or right.
You can't prove that a guy didn't build a giant boat and put 2 of every kind of creature on it because the entire world was flooded, but it sure sounds like something an idiot would believe.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:29 AM   #38
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This pretty much answers Lithiums drunken post...
The only problem with taking that angle is that how did God come forth? How did nothing produce God?

It's the same thing really, both theories believe that life sprang from nothingness, however, at least with evolution there is some chemistry backing it up.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:32 AM   #39
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That is your opinion & nothing more Dave.
As is everyone of your posts as well.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #40
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The only problem with taking that angle is that how did God come forth? How did nothing produce God?

It's the same thing really, both theories believe that life sprang from nothingness, however, at least with evolution there is some chemistry backing it up.
Oh and that pesky evidence stuff...
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:36 AM   #41
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His wife came from the pre-existing peoples on Earth, who's predecessors were all alive when Adam & Eve were created. The Bible doesn't ever say Adam & Eve were the first humans, only that they were created by God and placed in the Garden Of Eden and the start of Jesus' "royal lineage".


The Creationists that take the creation story literally and assume they were the first humans miss the part of the story you refer to: where the Bible clearly states Cain goes out "for fear of" the peoples of the Earth who he feels will try to kill him.
No, that is not correct. The Bible absolutely says that Adam was the first man, created from dirt, and Eve from him. There was nothing before that. And even if it were, the Bible clearly says that only the children of Adam and Eve would be saved and enter heaven. You're welcome to believe what you choose, but that is not how it's depicted in any Bible versions, and goes against many teachings. If you believe in the literal account of the Bible, you have to assume that Cain married his sister and just ignore the whole genetic deformity business. I've heard some say that it was OK, because at that time humans were genetically pure, whatever that is supposed to mean, and it would have been OK for brothers and sisters to do the no pants dance.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:43 AM   #42
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I don't think you can prove the bible wrong, or right.
There are many blatantly obvious contradictions in the Bible. Very clear contradictions. Which both cannot be correct.
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there is no god.
This much is rather obvious if one does much honest contemplation at all.
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