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Incest Marriage?

Irish incest couple plan to marry
They only found out after DNA test
By PATRICK COOPER,IrishCentral.com Staff Writer
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An Irish couple, who recently found out they were siblings, will be getting married this month.


An Irish incest couple, who never knew they shared the same father when they met, plan to get married later this month.

They already have a child together after meeting in a nightclub and falling in love.

The man known only as James, never knew his real biological father and says he was prevented from finding out by authorities.

"The way I see it, if the system can know about things and hide the facts, then I can do the same — they turned a blind eye and so can we," the man, told the Irish Mail.

It is forbidden in Irish law for siblings to marry each other.

"People can criticize and say it is not right, but they should say the same about what was done to me in the family law courts."James said.



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Old 04-02-2013, 08:48 AM   #2
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However, how could he have possibly known is was his sister if he was not allowed to find out who his father was?
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:59 AM   #6
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Uhh, no. Incest and pedophilia won't be allowed anytime soon.

Homosexual relations are between two consenting adults and the state has absolutely no REAL reason to prohibit them. That's obviously and starkly not true for the other two categories.
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Uhh, no. Incest and pedophilia won't be allowed anytime soon.

Homosexual relations are between two consenting adults and the state has absolutely no REAL reason to prohibit them. That's obviously and starkly not true for the other two categories.
How about bigamy or polygamy?

Multiple consenting adults vs. two consenting adults, if we can define marriage as something other than a one man & one woman can it not be defined as more than one person & one person?

I ask from a legal, and not a moral or religious, stand point.
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Uhh, no. Incest and pedophilia won't be allowed anytime soon.

Homosexual relations are between two consenting adults and the state has absolutely no REAL reason to prohibit them. That's obviously and starkly not true for the other two categories.
incest might be between two consenting adults

what happened to being open to new ideas and viewpoints?

if you aren't for incest you are just a closed minded bigot.
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Uhh, no. Incest and pedophilia won't be allowed anytime soon.

Homosexual relations are between two consenting adults and the state has absolutely no REAL reason to prohibit them. That's obviously and starkly not true for the other two categories.
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what happened to being open to new ideas and viewpoints?

if you aren't for incest you are just a closed minded bigot.
from a biological and evolutionary standpoint, there's a reason there's a taboo against incest--families tend to segregate and be heterozygous for the same lethal mutations (aka, it would be embryonically lethal OR highly deleterious if you had two copies). when close family members reproduce, the odds of those two alleles coming together in the offspring are VERY high, and lead to reduced fitness in the offspring. This is selected against and manifests in the societal pressure against having a child with close family.

Regardless of whether they're consenting or not, when incest occurs and offspring happen, it's BAD.

When two gay or lesbians get together, NO OFFSPRING occur WITHOUT A SURROGATE. Being gay or lesbian has NO REDUCED FITNESS biologically speaking.

pedophilia--yeah, we'll not go there. it's a societal taboo for different reasons than incest. However, (and DON'T take this as me defending pedophilia--I think it's very sickening) it wasn't always a societal taboo. see also: ancient greece and several other ancient cultures.

as for man/woman pedophilia, recall that we haven't always lived as long as we do now--we aren't THAT far removed from women getting married in their pre-teens. is it right? as one that was raised in THIS society with THESE social mores, I'm against it. however, being that we're all the products of the society in which we grow up, somebody from 500 years or so ago would have a COMPLETELY different vantage point.
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Uhh, no. Incest and pedophilia won't be allowed anytime soon.

Homosexual relations are between two consenting adults and the state has absolutely no REAL reason to prohibit them. That's obviously and starkly not true for the other two categories.
I don't think it's fair to say there's no real reason to limit marriage to opposite sex couples. I share your opinion that the reasons are weak and unpersuasive, but encouraging procreation and stable two-parent families by putting opposite sex marriages in a preferential place compared to alternative lifestyles (same sex, mulitple partner, bachelorhood, etc.) is a real reason.
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