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Old 04-04-2013, 06:26 AM  
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WSJ: Trading for a Quarterback Doesn't Really Help



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Trading for a Quarterback Doesn't Really Help

Trading for quarterbacks has been quite popular this off-season, but are NFL teams being wise to do so? Recent history suggests otherwise.

This week's trades of Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals and of Matt Flynn (pictured, far right) to the Oakland Raiders brought the total of projected starters acquired via trade to three this off-season, along with Kansas City's Alex Smith.

Notable quarterbacks such as John Elway and Brett Favre were traded by the teams that drafted them, before they had their greatest successes. But if Palmer, Flynn and Smith succeed in their first seasons with their new teams, it would buck a pretty clear trend in recent NFL history.

Since 1994, there have been 25 trades involving quarterbacks who started at least eight games for their new team the following season. Only two led their new teams to the postseason in the first year—Brad Johnson (1999 Redskins) and Steve McNair (2006 Ravens).

Some quarterbacks were successful, but struggled in their first season in a new city. Matt Hasselbeck went on to win five postseason games with the Seattle Seahawks and lead the team to Super Bowl XL. Trent Green had some success following a trade to the Kansas City Chiefs, and Matt Schaub and Jay Cutler remain upper-echelon quarterbacks with the Houston Texans and Chicago Bears, respectively, but have only three combined playoff victories with their new teams.

The failures of traded quarterbacks have far outweighed the successes, especially with over-the-hill QBs such as Brett Favre, who struggled down the stretch in his one season with the New York Jets, and Donovan McNabb, who struggled in his only season with the Washington Redskins, and later with the Minnesota Vikings. Both Palmer and Flynn were last traded within the past two seasons—and in both cases, the teams that traded for them gave up more than they got, while not achieving the results they were expecting.

—Eric Edholm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...?mod=djemITP_h
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:55 AM   #3
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It's not like drafting QBs is always some great success either.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:57 AM   #4
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It's not like drafting QBs is always some great success either.
Chiefs would be a great poster child for that article though.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:00 AM   #5
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Chiefs would be a great poster child for that article though.
Yeah, trading for a QB can be a fix. It shouldn't be a trend spanning multiple decades.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:03 AM   #6
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Green Bay traded FOR Favre.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:15 AM   #7
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Green Bay traded FOR Favre.
And, 16 years later, Green Bay traded Favre.
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Old 04-04-2013, 07:19 AM   #8
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heh, love this line
It's the true-fan portion of the article.
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:08 AM   #10
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To be fair, using their methodology, drafting a QB in the first round really doesn't help either. Only 7 out of 48 QBs drafted in the first round since 1994 lead their teams to the playoffs in their first year. Two of those were last year, Luck and RG3, which everyone is saying are once in a generation QBs. Otherwise, '08 is the only other standout year when both Ryan and Flacco led their teams to the playoffs.

Before folks start their bitchfest and give themselves an aneurysm, understand I am only using the apparent methodology used by the article. I'm not saying that first round QBs don't develop into franchise QBs (ie the Mannings); I'm just using the same criteria as the article when they say that trading for a QB doesn't really help. Using their criteria, drafting a QB in the first round doesn't really help either.
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To be fair, using their methodology, drafting a QB in the first round really doesn't help either. Only 7 out of 48 QBs drafted in the first round since 1994 lead their teams to the playoffs in their first year. Two of those were last year, Luck and RG3, which everyone is saying are once in a generation QBs. Otherwise, '08 is the only other standout year when both Ryan and Flacco led their teams to the playoffs.

Before folks start their bitchfest and give themselves an aneurysm, understand I am only using the apparent methodology used by the article. I'm not saying that first round QBs don't develop into franchise QBs (ie the Mannings); I'm just using the same criteria as the article when they say that trading for a QB doesn't really help. Using their criteria, drafting a QB in the first round doesn't really help either.
How many of those 48 QBs drafted in the 1st round started at least 8 games for their teams during their rookie season?
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:12 AM   #12
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lets revolutionize the game and play without a QB
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lets revolutionize the game and play without a QB
trade for tebow?
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:13 AM   #14
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lets revolutionize the game and play without a QB
We've tried that the past 7 years. Doesn't work.
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Wow. Water is wet. The QB lottery is part luck, part coaching, part talent, part skill, part intelligence, part having a good defense, etc.............Thanks Wall Street Journal.
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