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Old 04-04-2013, 07:26 AM  
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Trading for a Quarterback Doesn't Really Help

Trading for quarterbacks has been quite popular this off-season, but are NFL teams being wise to do so? Recent history suggests otherwise.

This week's trades of Carson Palmer to the Arizona Cardinals and of Matt Flynn (pictured, far right) to the Oakland Raiders brought the total of projected starters acquired via trade to three this off-season, along with Kansas City's Alex Smith.

Notable quarterbacks such as John Elway and Brett Favre were traded by the teams that drafted them, before they had their greatest successes. But if Palmer, Flynn and Smith succeed in their first seasons with their new teams, it would buck a pretty clear trend in recent NFL history.

Since 1994, there have been 25 trades involving quarterbacks who started at least eight games for their new team the following season. Only two led their new teams to the postseason in the first year—Brad Johnson (1999 Redskins) and Steve McNair (2006 Ravens).

Some quarterbacks were successful, but struggled in their first season in a new city. Matt Hasselbeck went on to win five postseason games with the Seattle Seahawks and lead the team to Super Bowl XL. Trent Green had some success following a trade to the Kansas City Chiefs, and Matt Schaub and Jay Cutler remain upper-echelon quarterbacks with the Houston Texans and Chicago Bears, respectively, but have only three combined playoff victories with their new teams.

The failures of traded quarterbacks have far outweighed the successes, especially with over-the-hill QBs such as Brett Favre, who struggled down the stretch in his one season with the New York Jets, and Donovan McNabb, who struggled in his only season with the Washington Redskins, and later with the Minnesota Vikings. Both Palmer and Flynn were last traded within the past two seasons—and in both cases, the teams that traded for them gave up more than they got, while not achieving the results they were expecting.

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Old 04-04-2013, 12:34 PM   #31
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And these QB's were traded from the teams that drafted them originally and then went on to have success.





And there are other QB's like Fran Tarkenton and Bobby Lane who were also traded and had success, not to mention Phillip Rivers, even though he hasn't won a SB, but I'm just too lazy to put them up.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:41 PM   #32
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:42 PM   #33
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:42 PM   #34
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:56 PM   #35
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:11 PM   #36
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Yeah because those guys all sucked last year.
it must be cool to live in a on/off conditional world. not.
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:36 PM   #37
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LOL, an article gets debunked and the skeptics are are the dumbasses....
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Old 04-04-2013, 02:48 PM   #38
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it must be cool to live in a on/off conditional world. not.
Those guys have all played pretty well for the duration of their careers.

Alex Smith has not.

If this team sucks it will be because of Alex Smith.
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:30 PM   #39
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The difference is that Kolb, Palmer and Flynn were acquired for very little consideration surrendered. So, even if they prove to be useless, it cost the team nothing but salary.

With the Chiefs, we gave up the equivalent of a low first round pick. So, Alex failure will have double the sting (as well as a triple sting in passing up drafting a good QB as well potentially).
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:44 PM   #41
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The difference is that Kolb, Palmer and Flynn were acquired for very little consideration surrendered. So, even if they prove to be useless, it cost the team nothing but salary.

With the Chiefs, we gave up the equivalent of a low first round pick. So, Alex failure will have double the sting (as well as a triple sting in passing up drafting a good QB as well potentially).
How is a 2nd round pick equivalent of a low 1st round pick? By it's very definition it is a pick in the 2nd round not the first. High second rounder does not equal 1st rounder.
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:34 PM   #42
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Those guys have all played pretty well for the duration of their careers.

Alex Smith has not.

If this team sucks it will be because of Alex Smith.
Bowe had 3 TD's last year. Hali was mediocre at best. I could go on but I keep in mind what a ****ing homer you are. shut it.
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Bowe had 3 TD's last year. Hali was mediocre at best.
And neither of them were the reason we went 2-14.

You are obtuse, and probably trolling.
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