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Old 04-12-2013, 12:09 AM  
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****Official Draft Sheldon Richardson Thread****

I want Geno. If we aren't going to draft Geno, then I want the best available pass rushing interior player. Now, you might go "God ****ing dammit Sorter, you've gone full true fan on us wanting a DL!". Normally, I'd agree. However, the 3 tech is an absolutely vital position in today's NFL. Teams are being forced to run "sub" (which in the future, will become base) fronts due to the propensity to throw the ball and align in 3/4 wr sets. Additionally, the quality of TEs is encouraging more throws out of what looks like base personnel (2 TEs, etc). Having an interior rusher who consistently pushes the pocket on sub and more importantly base fronts is crucial. Personally, I'd rather have an interior rusher who struggles against the run but is explosive and active with his hand then most players. Interior players who can rush the passer are a very limited commodity. Quick, name them! Watt, Atkins, Tuck, Cox, Campbell, Jones, Suh. There are a few others you can throw in, ala Raji, but the number of effective interior pass rushers is significantly lower than the amount of OLBs/DEs.

We currently have absolutely nobody who can play the 3 tech effectively. I had very high hopes for Allen Bailey coming into last year, thinking that he'd be able to win 1-1s with RGs in subs and build on his production from his rookie year. He completely underwhelmed.

Out of the available prospects, Richardson is the only one I've seen that is consistently explosive, uses his hands, gets a great "pop", has pass rushing moves, and is athletic enough to align in the 0/1 (although he isn't a NT), 2/3/4/5/7 tech and provide a pass rush. There are some character concerns and his interviews don't help him in that regard. He also struggles against the run and has a propensity to play high (which he gets by with due to his hand fighting skills). The last part is fairly common for most rookies playing DL.

Again, I want Geno. However, having an interior player who gets upfield is a commodity every team wants but few truly have.

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Old 04-12-2013, 10:06 AM   #31
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Except when he's taking entire games off like Syracuse.

Yeah, you're right, that part about disappearing was unfair.

However, I can't get past the fact there's always been a lot of self-created drama surrounding him, going back to recruiting right up to shanking his own team vs. Cuse. That kind of immaturity worries me.
Yeah, good point.

What Sorter has essentially done is given us more examples of why Geno SHOULD be the pick, in his own end around way. Well done, Boxxystalker.
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:28 PM   #32
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Old 04-14-2013, 07:36 PM   #33
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:05 PM   #34
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Sorter, you say Sheldon Richardson at 1.1, I counter Bennie Logan in the third round. What say you man?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:08 PM   #35
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Sorter, you say Sheldon Richardson at 1.1, I counter Bennie Logan in the third round. What say you man?
I don't think he has quite the upside Richardson does as a pass rusher. But TBH, I'd take both.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:09 PM   #36
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He doesn't have the upside or the versatility. But he would be a nice piece for a 3-4/4-3 hybrid defense, if that were the route we were going. He has surprising length, actually - despite being only 6'2" he has 34" arms. Maybe he could play the 5-tech.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:16 PM   #37
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Agree on all points there.


Don't remember who mentioned it, but I see alot of Sapp in Richardson as a pass rusher. He's pretty relentless when he's dialed in. He carried that MU defense alot this year.
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:45 PM   #38
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If we don't get a qb, at least give us a pass rusher.

If he is as good as Hamas and Sorter are saying, sign me the **** up.

Why does Deez hate the guy so badly?
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:50 PM   #39
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If we don't get a qb, at least give us a pass rusher.

If he is as good as Hamas and Sorter are saying, sign me the **** up.

Why does Deez hate the guy so badly?
He's a Chester McGlockton type player. He'll look completely unstoppable for ten plays, then take the next twelve off. (I know that is how 'Hamas' feels, and I think Deez follows that line of thinking as well)
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Old 04-14-2013, 09:53 PM   #40
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Any of the top pass rushers Id be thrilled with if we don't take Geno. We need high impact at number 1. A pass rusher that can make plays and help instantly is better than trading Albert and taking an OT number 1.
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