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Old 04-18-2013, 01:22 PM  
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CISPA passes. **** your internet freedoms.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/18/42...ses-cispa-2013

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he US House of Representatives has once again passed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which died in the Senate last year, by a margin of 288 to 127 after two days of debate.

Over several hours, House opinion on the bill boiled down to whether the redesigned CISPA successfully addressed criticism from civil libertarians, and whether the threat of cyberattacks was grave enough to justify overriding lingering concerns. Representative Candice Miller (R-MI), a CISPA supporter, painted a dire picture of North Korean hackers taking down the US power grid, and Rep. Joe Heck (R-NV) warned that "our nation is under attack."

Rep. Mike McCaul (R-TX) went so far as to urge passage with a comparison to the Boston Marathon bombings: "In the case of Boston they were real bombs, in this case they're digital bombs. And these digital bombs are on their way."
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Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other Internet companies and e-mail providers will be prohibited from making legally binding promises to protect your privacy, thanks to a vote this afternoon in the U.S. House of Representatives.

CISPA means Internet and other companies will be "completely exonerated from any risk of liability" if they open their databases with confidential customer information to the feds and even private-sector firms.

CISPA is controversial because it overrules all existing federal and state laws by saying "notwithstanding any other provision of law," including a privacy policy or terms of service agreement, companies may share certain confidential customer information "with any other entity, including the federal government." It would not, however, require them to do so.

CISPA's information sharing regime allows the transfer of vast amounts of data, including sensitive information like Internet records or the content of e-mails, to any agency in the government."
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:05 AM   #16
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Where are the republican choad-huffers on this one?
Notice that they aren't defending the actions of the Republicans who voted for the bill.

If this was supported by Democrats, all the liberals would be changing their ideology to properly support their party.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #17
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Notice that they aren't defending the actions of the Republicans who voted for the bill.

If this was supported by Democrats, all the liberals would be changing their ideology to properly support their party.
Do you really believe that or do you just have to pretend to?
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:22 AM   #18
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I don't think Obama will have to veto this I doubt the Senate passes it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:33 AM   #19
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Do you really believe that or do you just have to pretend to?
Do I believe what? That liberals form their views to match their party? That's just a cold hard fact.

Conservatives are much more likely to go against their representatives than Liberals. You don't see Democrat incumbents being knocked out in their primaries. It happens to Republicans quite often. You don't see Liberals staying home and refusing to support a candidate because he isn't liberal enough. Mitt Romney lost a ton of support because he wasn't conservative enough. You don't hear liberal talking heads bashing their own party. Listen to the big Conservative talk radio and they spend more time bashing Republicans than they do Democrats. There is more of an outrage about CISPA passing the house among Conservatives than Liberals. Conservatism is based on the principle of limited government. Liberalism is based on whatever Barack Obama and the Democrat party believes in.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:05 PM   #20
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:08 PM   #21
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Do I believe what? That liberals form their views to match their party? That's just a cold hard fact.

Conservatives are much more likely to go against their representatives than Liberals. You don't see Democrat incumbents being knocked out in their primaries. It happens to Republicans quite often. You don't see Liberals staying home and refusing to support a candidate because he isn't liberal enough. Mitt Romney lost a ton of support because he wasn't conservative enough. You don't hear liberal talking heads bashing their own party. Listen to the big Conservative talk radio and they spend more time bashing Republicans than they do Democrats. There is more of an outrage about CISPA passing the house among Conservatives than Liberals. Conservatism is based on the principle of limited government. Liberalism is based on whatever Barack Obama and the Democrat party believes in.
Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:40 PM   #22
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Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
Mitt lost because he wasn't black enough.

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Old 04-19-2013, 12:50 PM   #23
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Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
I think he lost because he was a ginourmous douchebag.
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Old 04-19-2013, 12:54 PM   #24
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Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
No, there was a contingent of conservatives who didn't even vote being reported because Mitt was a Progressive. Plenty of live footage on You Tube of him even saying that.
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:38 PM   #25
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Old 04-19-2013, 01:58 PM   #26
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Do I believe what? That liberals form their views to match their party? That's just a cold hard fact.

Conservatives are much more likely to go against their representatives than Liberals. You don't see Democrat incumbents being knocked out in their primaries. It happens to Republicans quite often. You don't see Liberals staying home and refusing to support a candidate because he isn't liberal enough. Mitt Romney lost a ton of support because he wasn't conservative enough. You don't hear liberal talking heads bashing their own party. Listen to the big Conservative talk radio and they spend more time bashing Republicans than they do Democrats. There is more of an outrage about CISPA passing the house among Conservatives than Liberals. Conservatism is based on the principle of limited government. Liberalism is based on whatever Barack Obama and the Democrat party believes in.
Grade A talk radio talking points. Was this from Rush or Hannity? Sounds more like Hannity.
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:50 PM   #27
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Come on dude, the Republicans control the house.
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:55 PM   #28
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The Republicans should have never even brought this up for a vote in the House, letting along passing it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:58 PM   #29
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Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
So true. I remember the good ole days prior to 2009 when Republicans supported huge trillion dollar bills like the Medicare bill and the creation of DHS, and lets not forget 2 multi-trillion dollar wars.
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