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Old 04-18-2013, 02:22 PM  
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he US House of Representatives has once again passed the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), which died in the Senate last year, by a margin of 288 to 127 after two days of debate.

Over several hours, House opinion on the bill boiled down to whether the redesigned CISPA successfully addressed criticism from civil libertarians, and whether the threat of cyberattacks was grave enough to justify overriding lingering concerns. Representative Candice Miller (R-MI), a CISPA supporter, painted a dire picture of North Korean hackers taking down the US power grid, and Rep. Joe Heck (R-NV) warned that "our nation is under attack."

Rep. Mike McCaul (R-TX) went so far as to urge passage with a comparison to the Boston Marathon bombings: "In the case of Boston they were real bombs, in this case they're digital bombs. And these digital bombs are on their way."
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Google, Facebook, Twitter, and other Internet companies and e-mail providers will be prohibited from making legally binding promises to protect your privacy, thanks to a vote this afternoon in the U.S. House of Representatives.

CISPA means Internet and other companies will be "completely exonerated from any risk of liability" if they open their databases with confidential customer information to the feds and even private-sector firms.

CISPA is controversial because it overrules all existing federal and state laws by saying "notwithstanding any other provision of law," including a privacy policy or terms of service agreement, companies may share certain confidential customer information "with any other entity, including the federal government." It would not, however, require them to do so.

CISPA's information sharing regime allows the transfer of vast amounts of data, including sensitive information like Internet records or the content of e-mails, to any agency in the government."
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:43 PM   #31
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Grade A talk radio talking points. Was this from Rush or Hannity? Sounds more like Hannity.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:13 PM   #32
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No, there was a contingent of conservatives who didn't even vote being reported because Mitt was a Progressive. Plenty of live footage on You Tube of him even saying that.
Five people is a contingent. Your words are empty and lacking in support.

2012 broken down by demographics.

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_12.html

2008 broken down by demos

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_08.html

Obama received fewer votes from self-avowed Republicans and Conservatives than in 2008

There were 131 million total votes in 2008 and 129 in 2012.

So, if you assume that the two million who stayed at home all voted for Romney, you're still three million short of a plurality.

So, what exactly is your point, other than your complete lack of evidence and understanding of principles of addition?
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:43 PM   #33
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So true. I remember the good ole days prior to 2009 when Republicans supported huge trillion dollar bills like the Medicare bill and the creation of DHS, and lets not forget 2 multi-trillion dollar wars.
There were Republicans before that who supported limited government but were ignored by the media.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:43 PM   #34
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:50 PM   #35
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Five people is a contingent. Your words are empty and lacking in support.

2012 broken down by demographics.

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_12.html

2008 broken down by demos

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/ele.../voted_08.html

Obama received fewer votes from self-avowed Republicans and Conservatives than in 2008

There were 131 million total votes in 2008 and 129 in 2012.

So, if you assume that the two million who stayed at home all voted for Romney, you're still three million short of a plurality.

So, what exactly is your point, other than your complete lack of evidence and understanding of principles of addition?
Nope, not when you count the fraud in key areas. The election was much closer.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:08 PM   #36
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Disappointing that the Republicans voted for this. Before the liberals on this board get too self-righteous, it should be noted that this passed with significant Democrat support, and we haven't seen what Harry Reid and the Senate will do.

House vote on April 18, 2013 passing CISPA
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Democratic 92 98 11
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:49 PM   #37
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Nope, not when you count the fraud in key areas. The election was much closer.
Chiefs Planet. When you don't have a counterargument, just make shit up.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:59 PM   #38
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:03 PM   #39
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:07 PM   #40
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Anonymous Calls For Internet Blackout On April 22 To Protest CISPA http://bit.ly/15rWvHa
They should hack the personal email accounts of all the asshat pols that voted for this and air their dirty laundry to the world.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #41
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Nope, not when you count the fraud in key areas. The election was much closer.
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Chiefs Planet. When you don't have a counterargument, just make shit up.
And not just any old fraud--she's claimed over and over that Obama received more votes than registered voters in several places. These are usually places where her family "heard" about this happening. I always ask for a news source, but those are apparently the days she has me on "ignore."
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #42
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Disappointing that the Republicans voted for this. Before the liberals on this board get too self-righteous, it should be noted that this passed with significant Democrat support, and we haven't seen what Harry Reid and the Senate will do.

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why did republicans support this so overwhelmingly?
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:47 PM   #43
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They should hack the personal email accounts of all the asshat pols that voted for this and air their dirty laundry to the world.
WikiLeaks and Julian Assange. Give him a call he'll do the job, just know your phone will be tapped.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:54 PM   #44
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why did republicans support this so overwhelmingly?
Take our guns and we'll take your internets!!
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:12 AM   #45
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Conservatism is based on the principles of limited government...since when, 2009?

Another in a long line of myopic posts that thinks Romney lost support because his lack of conservatism, despite the fact that he drew equal levels of support from conservative voters than past candidates.
Conservatism and Republicans are not synonymous. Perhaps you don't understand. He drew the same level of support from conservatives who voted. However, many conservatives chose to not support the least evil of two lessers.
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