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Old 04-19-2013, 04:11 PM  
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What makes a first-round left tackle bust?

You take a guy like Jason Smith. Obviously he's been a disappointment to the Rams, but why?

When you look at an offensive tackle, you measure him, and that's pretty obviously objective. You can watch a ton of game tape on him to see how he plays in real-life situations. You can time how fast he gets into pass protection and how agile he is. Maybe it's harder to measure whether he can react to audibles, but really, if he's got elite measurables it seems like even if he screws that up he can get in someone's way.

So why is Jason Smith a bust? He was deemed an ultra-safe pick. What is he not doing, and was there some way it could have been measured? And not just him, but also Robert Gallery, Kwame Harris, Trezelle Jenkins (sigh), Mike Williams, Kenyatta Walker, Stockar McDougle, and so on.

Or for that matter, just stick to Jason and Gallery since they were ultra-high picks. Trezelle was known to be a project.

It just seems like there are relatively few variables that are critical for an offensive lineman, and that all of them should be identified and measured by now. These are, after all, multimillion dollar investments.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:37 PM   #31
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Old 04-20-2013, 03:20 AM   #32
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To answer OPs question. Being drafted 1st overall.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:23 AM   #33
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Personally, I would never draft an Iowa LT high. To me, they're basically all guards playing tackle. They're all power, and run blocking, not so great at footwork and technique.
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:39 AM   #34
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Joeckel is nothing like Jason Smith. That's one hell of a reach
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Old 04-20-2013, 06:52 AM   #35
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:03 AM   #36
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They are human just like any other player. Some don't have the work ethic, get lazy when they get the money, etc. sometimes scouts are just wrong. What made Akili Smith a bust at QB? Or mike Williams at WR? It's not an exact science
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:40 AM   #37
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:46 AM   #38
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The QB has the most affect on how well a LT does, just look at Johnny Manziel and how he made a 2nd-3rd round pick a potential #1 overall.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:50 AM   #39
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The QB has the most affect on how well a LT does, just look at Johnny Manziel and how he made a 2nd-3rd round pick a potential #1 overall.
Pretty sure there's some intended hyperbole there.

Manziel did bail Joekell out a couple of times, but he (Manziel) had a tendency to run well before he had to.

Joekell is a solid technician that woud be a first rounder in any draft, whose value is inflated in this draft because of the lack of elite talent at the top.

He's going to be a good LT for a long time.

But the emphasis here is on the word "good".
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