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Old 04-21-2013, 07:55 AM  
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Bowes says we're going Deep /gonna blow up the scoreboard

I just hope blowing up the scoreboard isn't considered a terroristic threat or Bowe may be done for the year.



Chiefs | Dwayne Bowe likes new offense
Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:58:30 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe said he likes the offense that head coach Andy Reid has brought to the team. "Throwing the ball deep, that's something we haven't done in the past so I'm excited right now. The play calling is totally different from last year. It's not check downs or putting it in the running back's hands. This guy likes to go down the field, take the top off (the defense) and that's something we haven't done in the past, put up a lot of points. This season he said we're going to blow out the scoreboard and that's something I'm looking forward to," Bowe said.

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Chiefs | Not committed to trading Branden Albert
Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:12:32 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs general manager John Dorsey said the team is not committed to trading OT Branden Albert even though they have allowed his agent to talk with the Miami Dolphins. "Branden Albert is a good football player," Dorsey said. "We wouldn't have stuck the franchise tag on him if he wasn't. It's my job to explore all options and that's kind of what's going on."

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Chiefs | Open to trading top pick
Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:08:27 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs general manager John Dorsey said the team is willing to listen to offers for the first overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

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Chiefs | Still considering several prospects
Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:07:55 -0700

Kansas City Chiefs general manager John Dorsey said the team is still considering four players as options for the first overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

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Old 04-21-2013, 01:14 PM   #136
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:22 PM   #137
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People that aren't thrilled have reason to have that attitude.
I definitely believe Smith is an upgrade over what we've had the last decade, but i wouldnt argue that point at all, i wasnt thrilled either, at all.

He isnt a sexy choice by any means, and has many of the same earmarks as past failures... i just hope he proves cerebral enough to overcome the physical limitations, like say, a Drew Brees who doesnt have a cannon but throws deep very well because of anticipation, timing and ability to read defenses.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:29 PM   #138
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Now it's THE LAST DECADE?

Alex Smith is in no way better than Trent Green.

It's questionable whether he's better than Cassel. We're about to find out.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:32 PM   #139
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
YPA is not a useless metric.

No more than YPC is a useless metric for running backs.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:33 PM   #140
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I definitely believe Smith is an upgrade over what we've had the last decade, but i wouldnt argue that point at all, i wasnt thrilled either, at all.

He isnt a sexy choice by any means, and has many of the same earmarks as past failures... i just hope he proves cerebral enough to overcome the physical limitations, like say, a Drew Brees who doesnt have a cannon but throws deep very well because of anticipation, timing and ability to read defenses.
Smith isn't better than Trent Green.

Brees was a very good QB when the Chargers released him. The problem was the shoulder injury. That caused enough doubts to prevent them from being able to get the trade value. The Saints rolled the dice on the health of his shoulder and it paid off. But Brees was a very good QB his last two years in SD, his fourth and fifth seasons in the league. Smith has completed 7 years and leaving Brees' injury aside, isn't nearly the QB that Brees was when he went to the Saints. The situations are quite different.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:34 PM   #141
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Now it's THE LAST DECADE?

Alex Smith is in no way better than Trent Green.

It's questionable whether he's better than Cassel. We're about to find out.
Trent Green was probably the premier 'game manager' type QB of his era. If Alex Smith can be Trent Green, we'll win a Super Bowl. If Trent had any kind of defense at all, he might have won 2.

Given the last couple of years, I doubt very seriously that Alex Smith will be Matt Cassel.

Either way, I don't think he's Reid's only plan.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:36 PM   #142
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YPA is not a useless metric.

No more than YPC is a useless metric for running backs.
You are correct that it's not a useless metric, but it is a useless metric to determine if a QB is good at throwing deep. For Smith if you ask why he has a good YPC it is two reasons: 1) high completion precentage and 2) good YAC by his receivers. If you calculate his air yards per completion, they are among the lowest in the league. He's a dink and dunk QB. You can see that from watching 49ers games or by looking at the stats. It is what he is.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #143
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Trent Green was probably the premier 'game manager' type QB of his era. If Alex Smith can be Trent Green, we'll win a Super Bowl. If Trent had any kind of defense at all, he might have won 2.

Given the last couple of years, I doubt very seriously that Alex Smith will be Matt Cassel.

Either way, I don't think he's Reid's only plan.
Alex Smith throwing Green numbers means the defense is better than the 85 Bears and the 2000 Ravens. They'd have to play otherworldly good.

I won't belabor the comparison between Cassel and Alex. That's already been done more eloquently by others here.

And Alex Smith is Reid's only plan. Unless you believe Daniel / Stanzi / Tanney are QBoTF material. A QB picked later than 2nd round is wasted in any year, and this year every pick has to hit to contribute. There are too mAny holes to take a developmental project guy.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #144
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Trent Green was probably the premier 'game manager' type QB of his era. If Alex Smith can be Trent Green, we'll win a Super Bowl.
To date, Alex Smith has shown 0 ability to be similar to Trent Green.

Point me to his 4500, or even 3700-yard seasons.

Green was easily a top 10 QB during 4 seasons here. Alex Smith is average.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:45 PM   #145
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Didn't Alex Smith have really shitty OC's and coaches in general and they changed the offense several times before Harbaugh arrived?

Is it possible that Reid will be able to provide stability and have Smith play at a high level?
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Alex's YPA is "high."

His YPC is a hilariously low 11.4 in comparison.

That would have ranked 24th in the NFL last season (he didn't qualify due to low attempts).

Better than Matt Cassel's 11.2 though!

And the previous year when he played the whole season...24th.

Dink and dunk POS.
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Trent Green was probably the premier 'game manager' type QB of his era. If Alex Smith can be Trent Green, and we can recreate a dynamic offense like we had in 2003 and achieve better consistency on defense we'll win a Super Bowl. If Trent had any kind of defense at all, he might have won 2.

Given the last couple of years, I doubt very seriously that Alex Smith will be Matt Cassel.

Either way, I don't think he's Reid's only plan.
FYP.

If you drop a circa 2002-2005 Trent Green into Andy Reid's offense with the Chiefs today, it isn't equivalent to those Al Saunder's offenses. It can be, but just dropping an equivalent to Trent Green in won't make it happen by magic. We don't have anything close to that OL and we have 2 play makers and a bunch of guys who haven't lived up to their potential/hype (Moeaki, Baldwin, McCluster).

This defense can still go on tilt where we give up 35 points per game. We're not going to win any championships when we routinely do that.
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 PM   #148
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Now it's THE LAST DECADE?

Alex Smith is in no way better than Trent Green.
Didnt mean to get into the Green era, had my wayback machine dialed a little too high.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:01 PM   #149
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Alex Smith averages 11.4 YPC. In "good seasons."

Matt Cassel averaged 11.9 in 2010.

Tyler Thigpen averaged 11.3 in 2008.

DAMON HUARD averaged 12.7 in 2006.

This is what we're dealing with.
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Didn't Alex Smith have really shitty OC's and coaches in general and they changed the offense several times before Harbaugh arrived?

Is it possible that Reid will be able to provide stability and have Smith play at a high level?
Another thing that can be said for Matt Cassel.
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