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View Poll Results: Would you be comfortable with this in your neighborhood?
Yes. This makes me feel safer. 13 20.00%
No. This is a violation of the 4th Amendment 50 76.92%
America is taking it up the Gaz. 2 3.08%
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:22 PM  
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:54 PM   #31
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Take the explosion in Texas or Katerina that was brought up a few posts back:

Are police allowed to order people out of certain areas in order to protect the public??? Yes.

Were police allowed to search private property in those situations without permission from the property owners? Yes.
Were they waving submachine guns around then too? Did people have to come out of their homes eith their hands raised or risk a beating or worse? Stupid comparison.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:55 PM   #32
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That's fine. And there you thousands of others that were stuck on roof-tops which rescue personnel had to risk their own lives to save because people were either too stupid or too poor to leave. That lady's reason for not leaving was b/c she didn't want to leave her dog. Sorry bitch, that's not a valid reason.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:56 PM   #33
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Well yeah, it's liberal Boston. Those people think it is ok to have your rights trampled on in the name of "safety".

You tend to find that attitude a little more opposed here in the heartland.
after 9/11 I recall the news with a lot of people saying "I dont mind giving up some liberties if it keeps us safe"

we're going down a dark road in this country. I would have been pissed if they forced themselves into my home and treated me like some kind of criminal just for living there. I wonder what they would do if they found a little stash of weed in one of those homes. Probably, "we're busy right now, but we'll be back!"
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #34
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after 9/11 I recall the news with a lot of people saying "I dont mind giving up some liberties if it keeps us safe"

we're going down a dark road in this country. I would have been pissed if they forced themselves into my home and treated me like some kind of criminal just for living there. The smell of weed would have probably had my face in the dirt.
Yeah, I'm sure they would have really ****ing cared if you were smoking weed while they were looking for an armed terrorist.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #35
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after 9/11 I recall the news with a lot of people saying "I dont mind giving up some liberties if it keeps us safe"

we're going down a dark road in this country. I would have been pissed if they forced themselves into my home and treated me like some kind of criminal just for living there. The smell of weed would have probably had my face in the dirt.
You are probably right. The smell of weed is all they need
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:58 PM   #36
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On this we agree. However they were not going door to door disarming people and were trying to locate a terrorist who set off a bomb and killed law enforcement officers. What would have been the proper course of action in your eyes~
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:00 PM   #37
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On this we agree. However they were not going door to door disarming people and were trying to locate a terrorist who set off a bomb and killed law enforcement officers. What would have been the proper course of action in your eyes~
How about obeying the law?
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:03 PM   #38
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If this is the new norm? Then **** IT! The terrorist are winning
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:04 PM   #39
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:06 PM   #40
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How about obeying the law?
Are you proposing that any home that refused should have been skipped until a judge approves a search warrant? Im not clear on what you mean by "obey the law"
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:07 PM   #41
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That's fine. And there you thousands of others that were stuck on roof-tops which rescue personnel had to risk their own lives to save because people were either too stupid or too poor to leave. That lady's reason for not leaving was b/c she didn't want to leave her dog. Sorry bitch, that's not a valid reason.
You totally missed the point.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:07 PM   #42
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Are you proposing that any home that refused should have been skipped until a judge approves a search warrant? Im not clear on what you mean by "obey the law"
Jesus ****ing christ. It's called the 4th amendment, read all about it, hick.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:08 PM   #43
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You are probably right. The smell of weed is all they need
JFC. This is not about the smell of weed. This was the active pursuit of a known mass murderer who had set off multiple bombs that killed several people and injured a whole bunch more.

The rule is that the police can't force their way in without a search warrant. Anyone who insists that there is NEVER a reasonable exception to this rule is just looking for an excuse to bitch.
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Jesus ****ing christ. It's called the 4th amendment, read all about it, hick.
JFC go look up the word "unreasonable."
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Why couldn't they just wait outside the house? Even if an armed criminal is inside a house and the cops surround it knowing he is inside, what is the harm in waiting him out? Isn't that the safer alternative than barging a home anyway?


The Constition disallows quartering of soldiers too. Your home is your home. Either get a warrant or wait outside.
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