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View Poll Results: Would you be comfortable with this in your neighborhood?
Yes. This makes me feel safer. 13 20.00%
No. This is a violation of the 4th Amendment 50 76.92%
America is taking it up the Gaz. 2 3.08%
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:22 PM  
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:19 PM   #61
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You're right. They should have waiting until the terrorist told them where he was hiding so that they could search for him in the boat.

This was a terrible story that had a happy ending because they caught the mother****er. And still people look for things to whine and bitch about.
They dint find him smart ass. A civilian that had been waiting all ****ing day to be ALLOWED the OPPORTUNITY to leave his HOUSE to have a SMOKE found him.
So IMO If they would not have locked down the neighborhood & made everyone go inside
Joe cig smoker would have found him HOURS earlier.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:19 PM   #62
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Actually yes, they can.

There were specific rights specifically enumerated in the Bill of Rights for a reason.
Have you ever heard the term "exigent circumstance"?

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An exigent circumstance, in the American law of criminal procedure, allows law enforcement to enter a structure without a search warrant, or if they have a "knock and announce" warrant, without knocking and waiting for refusal under certain circumstances. It must be a situation where people are in imminent danger, evidence faces imminent destruction, or a suspect will escape.

In the criminal procedure context, exigent circumstance means:


An emergency situation requiring swift action to prevent imminent danger to life or serious damage to property, or to forestall the imminent escape of a suspect, or destruction of evidence. There is no ready litmus test for determining whether such circumstances exist, and in each case the extraordinary situation must be measured by the facts known by officials.[1]


Those circumstances that would cause a reasonable person to believe that entry (or other relevant prompt action) was necessary to prevent physical harm to the officers or other persons, the destruction of relevant evidence, the escape of a suspect, or some other consequence improperly frustrating legitimate law enforcement efforts.[2]

Exigent circumstances may make a warrantless search constitutional if probable cause exists. The existence of exigent circumstances is a mixed question of law and fact.[3] There is no absolute test for determining if exigent circumstances exist, but general factors have been identified. These include: clear evidence of probable cause; the seriousness of the offense and likelihood of destruction of evidence; limitations on the search to minimize the intrusion only to preventing destruction of evidence; and clear indications of exigency.

Exigency may be determined by: degree of urgency involved; amount of time needed to get a search warrant; whether evidence is about to be removed or destroyed; danger at the site; knowledge of the suspect that police are on his or her trail; and/or ready destructibility of the evidence.[4] In determining the time necessary to obtain a warrant, a telephonic warrant should be considered. As electronic data may be altered or eradicated in seconds, in a factually compelling case the doctrine of exigent circumstances will support a warrantless seizure.

Even in exigent circumstances, while a warrantless seizure may be permitted, a subsequent warrant to search may still be necessary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent...ted_States_law
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #63
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Not my problem.
That's the American spirit right there.

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Old 04-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #64
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All they have to do now is tell you there may be a person around who may be dangerous and get the **** out of your own home while we poke around and sniff your wife's panties.
Yep. You allow for one excuse, more are to follow.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM   #65
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Or what? Swat team at front door are you going to kick some ass and make them leave? Really?
This is probably the behavior you will exhibit when they come to confiscate your firearms right? I knew you were all talk.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM   #66
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Have you ever heard the term "exigent circumstance"?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exigent...ted_States_law

I've heard of it. Doesn't mean that I think it is Constitutional.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:21 PM   #67
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Yep. You allow for one excuse, more are to follow.
Ah yes the old "slippery slope" argument.

When you know your position is ludicrous, invoke the slippery slope argument.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:23 PM   #68
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They dint find him smart ass. A civilian that had been waiting all ****ing day to be ALLOWED the OPPORTUNITY to leave his HOUSE to have a SMOKE found him.
So IMO If they would not have locked down the neighborhood & made everyone go inside
Joe cig smoker would have found him HOURS earlier.
Pure speculation.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:23 PM   #69
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I've heard of it. Doesn't mean that I think it is Constitutional.
Fortunately, you are in the minority. An extremely loud and vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:24 PM   #70
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This is probably the behavior you will exhibit when they come to confiscate your firearms right? I knew you were all talk.
Completely irrelevant. This is not an argument about gun control.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #71
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That's the American spirit right there.
Actually, it is.


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Old 04-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #72
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Pure speculation.
Sot of like what they used to herd people out of their home at gunpoint.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:25 PM   #73
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Pure speculation.
As was the notion that the bad guy was in any of the houses.
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Sot of like what they used to herd people out of their home at gunpoint.
Beat me to it.
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Fortunately, you are in the minority. An extremely loud and vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.
I don't know what is fortunate about it but, whatever.
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