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Old 04-21-2013, 08:49 PM  
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ACLU to Kansas school district: Cancel creationist assemblies about Dinosaurs

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The American Civil Liberties Union has warned a southwest Kansas school district against holding mandatory student assemblies that feature a creationist group.

“Teaching or otherwise promoting creationism is, simply put, unlawful,” the ACLU wrote in a letter to Hugoton Public Schools superintendent Mark Crawford on Friday. “As the District is surely aware, the federal courts have been unequivocally clear that efforts to inject religious beliefs regarding the origin of life into public school science curricula are constitutionally impermissible, no matter what form they take.”

Hugoton Public Schools invited Creation Truth Foundation’s founder Dr. G. Thomas Sharp to teach the “Truth about Dinosaurs” at two assemblies next week. At least one of the assemblies will be mandatory for all students and teachers.

The group has created teaching materials “explaining the origins, extinction and possible existence of dinosaurs” from a Biblical view and believes the dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex walked the Earth as early as 100,000 years ago rather more than 65 million years ago. In a lecture uploaded to YouTube last year, Sharp criticized scientists for ignoring the great flood of the Bible.

“We respectfully request the District take immediate and concrete steps to remedy these problems,” the ACLU concluded. “The first step would be to cancel the planned mandatory school assemblies now set for next week.”

However, superintendent Crawford has said he will not call off the assemblies. He told The Kansas City Star the assemblies will not promote creationism, despite the beliefs and mission of the Creation Truth Foundation.

“I agree with the ACLU, in that, if a mandatory all-school assembly where creationist truths or creationist beliefs were expressed, that would be inappropriate public-school content, and that is not the case,” Crawford said. “It’s completely and totally school appropriate.”
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:52 PM   #2
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Nothing wrong with teaching different viewpoints, however neither side should be mandatory unless it's a private school.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:55 PM   #3
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Stupid beyond belief. Its crap like this that makes me speak up about the stupidity of the theist position at the drop of a hat
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:56 PM   #4
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:32 PM   #5
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It's interesting he says the Dinos are 100,000 years old. If a creationist believes humankind to be only 6,000 years old then Dinos were around 94,000 years earlier and that means the strict Biblical story didn't happen in 7 days. Of course this assumes he's a Bible believer and not just a creationist.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:34 PM   #6
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Nothing wrong with teaching different viewpoints, however neither side should be mandatory unless it's a private school.
They aren't different viewpoints. One is a religion. The other isn't.

The fact that scientific facts conflict with your religious beliefs doesn't make science a competing religion. It just means that primitive religious beliefs often don't stand up very well under the scrutiny of the scientific method.

I realize that I'm wasting my time here. I guess I can't give up on the hope that maybe, just maybe, for one brief instant you'll have a flash of understanding that will lead you to question the authority that has ruled your entire thought process for your entire life.

Like I said, I'm wasting my time.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:02 PM   #7
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Nothing wrong with teaching different viewpoints, however neither side should be mandatory unless it's a private school.
It is when one of the viewpoints contradicts fact. The timeframe when Tyrannosaurus Rex walked the Earth is not a matter of opinion. Maybe we could also teach a different viewpoint on 2 + 2 = ?
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:03 PM   #8
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It is when one of the viewpoints contradicts fact. The timeframe when Tyrannosaurus Rex walked the Earth is not a matter of opinion. Maybe we could also teach a different viewpoint on 2 + 2 = ?
It is, unless you have absolute proof which you do not.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:13 PM   #9
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It is, unless you have absolute proof which you do not.
You doubt carbon dating results?
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:14 PM   #10
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It is, unless you have absolute proof which you do not.
JFC. Let's break out the Creation Museum's refutation of radiocarbon dating, then.
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It is, unless you have absolute proof which you do not.
LOL at the "you weren't there you don't know argument." Nobody has absolute proof that a god exists (for obvious reasons) but they will shit all over scientific findings all day long.

It would be like me saying Jesus didn't exist because we can't prove he lived 100%. Lets be honest, we only have some unproven relics and historical accounts, neither of which prove without a doubt that he existed.
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Here's something else I don't have absolute proof of:

That cupcakes won't become sentient tomorrow, realize humanity as a threat, then launch a global war against us wherein they plunge humanity back into the Stone Age.
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:21 PM   #13
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You doubt carbon dating results?
Very much so, you can get Incredibly different dates from items that are about the same age old. The stats are there if you care to look.
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Very much so, you can get Incredibly different dates from items that are about the same age old. The stats are there if you care to look.
I'm beginning to get a very clear picture of you. Belief in the unknowable but absolute skepticism regarding everything science.

Ask yourself, shouldn't you apply that same level of skepticism to everything you're told?
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Very much so, you can get Incredibly different dates from items that are about the same age old. The stats are there if you care to look.
This is bullshit. You aren't getting a 65 million year difference in carbon dating results.
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