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Old 04-21-2013, 09:49 PM  
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ACLU to Kansas school district: Cancel creationist assemblies about Dinosaurs

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The American Civil Liberties Union has warned a southwest Kansas school district against holding mandatory student assemblies that feature a creationist group.

“Teaching or otherwise promoting creationism is, simply put, unlawful,” the ACLU wrote in a letter to Hugoton Public Schools superintendent Mark Crawford on Friday. “As the District is surely aware, the federal courts have been unequivocally clear that efforts to inject religious beliefs regarding the origin of life into public school science curricula are constitutionally impermissible, no matter what form they take.”

Hugoton Public Schools invited Creation Truth Foundation’s founder Dr. G. Thomas Sharp to teach the “Truth about Dinosaurs” at two assemblies next week. At least one of the assemblies will be mandatory for all students and teachers.

The group has created teaching materials “explaining the origins, extinction and possible existence of dinosaurs” from a Biblical view and believes the dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex walked the Earth as early as 100,000 years ago rather more than 65 million years ago. In a lecture uploaded to YouTube last year, Sharp criticized scientists for ignoring the great flood of the Bible.

“We respectfully request the District take immediate and concrete steps to remedy these problems,” the ACLU concluded. “The first step would be to cancel the planned mandatory school assemblies now set for next week.”

However, superintendent Crawford has said he will not call off the assemblies. He told The Kansas City Star the assemblies will not promote creationism, despite the beliefs and mission of the Creation Truth Foundation.

“I agree with the ACLU, in that, if a mandatory all-school assembly where creationist truths or creationist beliefs were expressed, that would be inappropriate public-school content, and that is not the case,” Crawford said. “It’s completely and totally school appropriate.”
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:30 PM   #16
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I'm beginning to get a very clear picture of you. Belief in the unknowable but absolute skepticism regarding everything science.

Ask yourself, shouldn't you apply that same level of skepticism to everything you're told?
No, because I know that is based on faith and what is in your soul.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:31 PM   #17
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No, because I know that is based on faith and what is in your soul.
Then you will never be saved.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:32 PM   #18
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And your faith is based upon editorial judgments (Council of Nicea says "Hi!") and translation errors.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:34 PM   #19
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And your faith is based upon editorial judgments (Council of Nicea says "Hi!") and translation errors.
You forgot to add in your opinion.
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Then you will never be saved.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:35 PM   #21
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Saw this on reddit today, haven't seen if it's been confirmed to be authentic. Real or not, this is what creationists want in public schools...


4th grade science test from a school in SC


http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comm..._school_in_sc/
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:37 PM   #22
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Saw this on reddit today, haven't seen if it's been confirmed to be authentic. Real or not, this is what creationists want in public schools...



http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comm..._school_in_sc/
False that is from a PRIVATE school and Creationist want either both sides taught or the unproven facts stricken from record completely.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:38 PM   #23
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False that is from a PRIVATE school and Creationist want either both sides taught or the unproven facts stricken from record completely.
So all of their shit essentially?

You see how stupid this is?
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:39 PM   #24
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False that is from a PRIVATE school and Creationist want either both sides taught or the unproven facts stricken from record completely.
Great. The FACT is, we don't need any creationist ideas in PUBLIC schools...or private schools for that matter.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:41 PM   #25
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So all of their shit essentially?

You see how stupid this is?
Either teach both as religion or only teach the facts, pretty simple and neither are needed in public schools.
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Great. The FACT is, we don't need any creationist ideas in PUBLIC schools...or private schools for that matter.
Gawd, what a Stalinist.
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Great. The FACT is, we don't need any creationist ideas in PUBLIC schools...or private schools for that matter.
If this were a true dictatorship then yes that would be true, thankfully we're not there yet.
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You forgot to add in your opinion.
There is no opinion there. It is documentable fact that the Council of Nicea made a conscious editorial decision about what books to put in the Bible and which ones to leave out (here's where you say God told them what to put in there). It's also true that many of the Biblical translations taken as fact are incorrect, as the translators made errors along the way when translating (often) Aramaic to Hebrew to Latin to various types of English.

And that's but one translation strain.
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I hope Killer Clown realizes that he can't definitively prove he's not a figment of some Hobo's imagination.
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There is no opinion there. It is documentable fact that the Council of Nicea made a conscious editorial decision about what books to put in the Bible and which ones to leave out (here's where you say God told them what to put in there). It's also true that many of the Biblical translations taken as fact are incorrect, as the translators made errors along the way when translating (often) Aramaic to Hebrew to Latin to various types of English.

And that's but one translation strain.
I believe the KJV was spiritually guided, it's really up to the individuals' belief. I believe the original was written in Greek.
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