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Old 04-21-2013, 08:49 PM  
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ACLU to Kansas school district: Cancel creationist assemblies about Dinosaurs

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The American Civil Liberties Union has warned a southwest Kansas school district against holding mandatory student assemblies that feature a creationist group.

“Teaching or otherwise promoting creationism is, simply put, unlawful,” the ACLU wrote in a letter to Hugoton Public Schools superintendent Mark Crawford on Friday. “As the District is surely aware, the federal courts have been unequivocally clear that efforts to inject religious beliefs regarding the origin of life into public school science curricula are constitutionally impermissible, no matter what form they take.”

Hugoton Public Schools invited Creation Truth Foundation’s founder Dr. G. Thomas Sharp to teach the “Truth about Dinosaurs” at two assemblies next week. At least one of the assemblies will be mandatory for all students and teachers.

The group has created teaching materials “explaining the origins, extinction and possible existence of dinosaurs” from a Biblical view and believes the dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex walked the Earth as early as 100,000 years ago rather more than 65 million years ago. In a lecture uploaded to YouTube last year, Sharp criticized scientists for ignoring the great flood of the Bible.

“We respectfully request the District take immediate and concrete steps to remedy these problems,” the ACLU concluded. “The first step would be to cancel the planned mandatory school assemblies now set for next week.”

However, superintendent Crawford has said he will not call off the assemblies. He told The Kansas City Star the assemblies will not promote creationism, despite the beliefs and mission of the Creation Truth Foundation.

“I agree with the ACLU, in that, if a mandatory all-school assembly where creationist truths or creationist beliefs were expressed, that would be inappropriate public-school content, and that is not the case,” Crawford said. “It’s completely and totally school appropriate.”
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:01 PM   #76
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Because it isn't taught, it's a nice little device invented to escape pain but it's no more real than rainbows and unicorns.
So it's the same as the rest of the horseshit you believe.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:12 PM   #77
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Saw this on reddit today, haven't seen if it's been confirmed to be authentic. Real or not, this is what creationists want in public schools...


4th grade science test from a school in SC


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This shit and home schooling is contributing significantly to the downfall of our country.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:18 PM   #78
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This is nice. Maybe they can follow up with Fred and Margie Phelps with a presentation on human sexuality.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:44 PM   #79
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Can somebody explain to me where in the article it states that Hugoton school district will be teaching creationism?

It's two assemblies. It's like having a magician do card tricks for the kids.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:45 PM   #80
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This shit and home schooling is contributing significantly to the downfall of our country.
Yeah.....no.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:49 PM   #81
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This shit and home schooling is contributing significantly to the downfall of our country.
Homeschooling will help to restore America. Remember, now this homeschooling idea started with left-wing hippies not the religious right. It was the unschooling movement.


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10. Education: Dr. Paul would like to see the U.S. Department of Education return its powers to the states and parents. He proposes and intends to give parents a $5,000 tax credit per child for kids K-12 to help with all the costs of education. He is supportive of home-schooling and will veto legislation that interferes with parents choosing to home-school their children.

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Old 04-22-2013, 06:50 PM   #82
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:53 PM   #83
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It's interesting he says the Dinos are 100,000 years old. If a creationist believes humankind to be only 6,000 years old then Dinos were around 94,000 years earlier and that means the strict Biblical story didn't happen in 7 days. Of course this assumes he's a Bible believer and not just a creationist.
Yeah, I had to do a double take when I saw that.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:56 PM   #84
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They aren't different viewpoints. One is a religion. The other isn't.
There are plenty of people in the world hat treat science like a religion.

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The fact that scientific facts conflict with your religious beliefs doesn't make science a competing religion. It just means that primitive religious beliefs often don't stand up very well under the scrutiny of the scientific method.

I realize that I'm wasting my time here. I guess I can't give up on the hope that maybe, just maybe, for one brief instant you'll have a flash of understanding that will lead you to question the authority that has ruled your entire thought process for your entire life.

Like I said, I'm wasting my time.

Uhm, has your side produced a missing link that ISN'T fake that I have not heard about?
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:03 PM   #85
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Can somebody explain to me where in the article it states that Hugoton school district will be teaching creationism?

It's two assemblies. It's like having a magician do card tricks for the kids.
Which is really how all these invisible men stories got started to begin with
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:23 PM   #87
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There are plenty of people in the world hat treat science like a religion.?
You're right. They're called creationists.

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Uhm, has your side produced a missing link that ISN'T fake that I have not heard about?
Well, there's Homo Erectus and Australopithecus for starters. But the evolution deniers will always move the goalposts on that, because no matter how many transitional fossils are found, they'll always point to a gap and say "Aha! The link there is MISSING!!!".

Creationists love to talk about the Piltdown Man hoax. Piltdown Man was an obvious fake. The Creationists will cling to that hoax with their dying breath and use it to argue that all transitional fossils are actually hoaxes.

But guess what? It wasn't a bunch of Creationists who proved the Piltdown Man was a hoax. It was a bunch of skeptical scientists who noticed major inconsistencies between Piltdown Man and all of the real transitional fossils found elsewhere, both before and after the Piltdown Man hoax.

In November 1953, Time published evidence gathered variously by Kenneth Page Oakley, Sir Wilfrid Edward Le Gros Clark and Joseph Weiner proving that the Piltdown Man was a forgery and demonstrating that the fossil was a composite of three distinct species. It consisted of a human skull of medieval age, the 500-year-old lower jaw of a Sarawak orangutan and chimpanzee fossil teeth. Someone had created the appearance of age by staining the bones with an iron solution and chromic acid. Microscopic examination revealed file-marks on the teeth, and it was deduced from this that someone had modified the teeth to a shape more suited to a human diet.

That's how science works. Scientists don't accept things based upon faith. They question, question, question, and when something doesn't fit, they figure out why. If something is a hoax, the hoax is inevitably exposed because every other scientist in the world is carefully scrutinizing the claim.

There's a pretty big difference between the scientific method and dogmatic religious teachings that emphasize the importance of accepting those teachings on faith alone, and threatening the listeners with eternal torture in hell if they don't. If you can't see the difference, it's because you've shut off the rational part of your brain because you're terrified by the prospect of eternal damnation if you dare to question authority.
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It's like having a magician do card tricks for the kids.
While this is totally true, the OP says it's a mandatory thing. And the rules are pretty clear on separating church and state.

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Creationists are almost as dangerous as global warming scientists.
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