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Old 07-26-2010, 12:51 AM  
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Season 4 premiered tonight. I would have bumped the season three thread but I titled it "season 3," which no longer seems appropriate.

Who saw it? It was a stupendous hour of television. All sorts of shit has happened in the eleven months that have passed (in-story) between the formation of Sterling Cooper Draper Price and the beginning of season 4. The premeir was stepped in the juices of the sexual revolution. It also had a lot to say about the increasing role of the media in the success or failure of things. It was great to see Don fail a little bit, and it was exciting to consider the future implications at the end of Don crafting a public/media persona that is completely unlike his actual personality.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:47 PM   #466
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They've seemingly written out the best characters. Trending downward.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:55 PM   #467
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They've seemingly written out the best characters. Trending downward.
Who has been written out?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:28 AM   #468
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Who has been written out?
Roger's been marginalized. Peggy's obviously been toned down a bit as well.

I don't think they've been written out as much as the show has simply become too sprawling. It's hard to have Peggy involved as much from a different agency. It's hard to also work in Meghan's career as well. It's really come at the expense of Betty and the kids (an arc that lost steam 3 years ago, so I'm not sad to see it go) and at the expense of the continuity of the show.

I like Dawn as a character; I think she could really be a nice addition and strong protagonist going forward. I hope Don doesn't try to bang her.

For the record, Don's pitch campaign was better than Peggy's, but Peggy happened to hit the bulls-eye for the guy doing the choosing.

And yeah, I think Don will eventually end up dead. There's clearly nothing that's going to satiate the man. With Anna Draper gone, I just don't think he has a moral compass left at all and there's nowhere for him to go at this point. He's rudderless and Weiner's going to kill him off when all is said and done. And they're also closing in on some of the shittiest times in American history. 1968-1972 were pretty much catastrophes for the American Psyche.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:56 AM   #469
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:55 PM   #470
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I'm not sure I find the show to be too sprawling, but it certainly does have a larger scope than it did in season 1. The days of every episode having a Don A-plot, Roger/Joan B-plot, and Peggy/Pete C-plot are over. Besides, Mad Men has for the past few seasons never really felt constructed into episodes as much as seasons. Every gets balanced out over the span of the season.
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Heavy Episode with the MLK Shooting - this episode was all over the place, some of it was very well done and some of it.. I want to say seemed forced.

I'll keep watching
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:42 PM   #472
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Heavy Episode with the MLK Shooting - this episode was all over the place, some of it was very well done and some of it.. I want to say seemed forced.

I'll keep watching
Bert's mediation scene was awful.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:54 AM   #473
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I liked that episode.

Don was human...if ever so briefly. Meghan remained something of a spoiled brat, but at least a semi-compassionate spoiled brat.

The Pete/Harry argument was interesting if for no other reason than to show that the race card is hardly new.

Not being alive then, it was also interesting to me to see how they portrayed the MLK assassination. Was it really something that rocked middle-class white America? Granted, many of these folks aren't blue-collar middle class, but it sure seemed like this resonated far more throughout the city than I had ever imagined it did.

And if Don goes, he goes off that balcony in his apartment. That's the first time I recall them focusing on the height/expanse of the balcony. And he had that exhausted look about him that I'd imagine one often sees in someone right before the plunge. Just a thought.

Like I said, Don's era has come to a close. With the impending arrival of the 70s, the reign of the alpha males is coming to a close. He'll either find peace soon, or find pavement later.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:57 AM   #474
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I liked that episode.

Don was human...if ever so briefly. Meghan remained something of a spoiled brat, but at least a semi-compassionate spoiled brat.

The Pete/Harry argument was interesting if for no other reason than to show that the race card is hardly new.

Not being alive then, it was also interesting to me to see how they portrayed the MLK assassination. Was it really something that rocked middle-class white America? Granted, many of these folks aren't blue-collar middle class, but it sure seemed like this resonated far more throughout the city than I had ever imagined it did.

And if Don goes, he goes off that balcony in his apartment. That's the first time I recall them focusing on the height/expanse of the balcony. And he had that exhausted look about him that I'd imagine one often sees in someone right before the plunge. Just a thought.

Like I said, Don's era has come to a close. With the impending arrival of the 70s, the reign of the alpha males is coming to a close. He'll either find peace soon, or find pavement later.
It seemed that some of the people were concerned due to the likelihood of riots.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:15 PM   #475
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:16 PM   #476
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