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Old 04-22-2013, 08:38 AM  
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Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

A Massachusetts police official say the brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon before having shootouts with authorities didn't have gun permits.

Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert Haas tells The Associated Press in an interview Sunday that neither Tamerlan Tsarnaev (tsahr-NEYE'-ehv) nor his brother Dzhokhar had permission to carry firearms.

He says it's unclear whether either ever applied and the applications aren't considered public records.

But he says the 19-year-old Dzhokhar (joh-KHAR') would have been denied a permit because of his age. Only people 21 or older are allowed gun licenses in Massachusetts.

The suspects were also accused of hijacking a Mercedes on Thursday night.

Haas says the pair didn't release the driver, but he escaped when he was left alone while the two men entered a convenience store.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/m...0#.UXVLIbXFWSo
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:38 PM   #46
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:59 PM   #47
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All weapons should be converted to nerf. That would have helped.
NONA?

The Nerf or Nothing Act is still in commitee.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:02 PM   #48
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I'm with you on the Constitutional argument, but thats a separate argument.

For some reason some people like to argue that because criminals will just find ways around a law, then we shouldn't have the law. You see how that is extremely stupid, right?
This situation applies to protection and the RTKBA. When we have restirctions of common use items like this, we limit the law abiding from protection that dubious people would use to commit crime.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #49
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I'm opposed to the recent gun control proposals, but come on, this is a really stupid argument. You want to apply it to other situations?

No matter what law you pass, determined people will still be able to enter our country or stay past their visa expiration. Do you think we shouldn't have immigration laws or restrictions?
I guess I missed where our Constitution gives foreign people the right to enter our country...
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:09 PM   #50
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HIDE YOUR KIDS, THE GUNS ARE COMING!!!
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:32 PM   #51
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If it proves anything, it proves that no matter what laws you pass, criminals are still going to break them and get the guns and magazine's they want.
We should only make laws criminals will obey!
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:35 PM   #52
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I'm opposed to the recent gun control proposals, but come on, this is a really stupid argument. You want to apply it to other situations?

No matter what law you pass, determined people will still be able to enter our country or stay past their visa expiration. Do you think we shouldn't have immigration laws or restrictions?
Gun control restricts the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. The law puts criminals at an advantage. What other law does this?
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #53
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We should only make laws criminals will obey!
We should only make laws that don't leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of those who choose to disobey the laws.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:46 PM   #54
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Gun control restricts the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. The law puts criminals at an advantage. What other law does this?
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We should only make laws that don't leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of those who choose to disobey the laws.


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Old 04-23-2013, 08:37 AM   #55
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We should only make laws that don't leave law abiding citizens at the mercy of those who choose to disobey the laws.
What do you mean, like drunk driving laws?

Like traffic laws?

Like felony laws?

Certainly, none of us are at the "mercy" of people who choose to disregard these laws either, or are you advocating the removal of them as well?
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:42 AM   #56
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People who get drunk and drive are merely stupid....or sick or both. Not malevolent. They don't steal guns from police or the military or head to black markets for something to kill intentionally. Obviously, that's not what's being talked about. Logic eludes you HH. You have your categories mixed up.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:44 AM   #57
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Gun control restricts the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves. The law. puts criminals at an advantage. What other law does this?
What do you mean? All laws put the law abiding at a disadvantage in some way or another. Try again.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:46 AM   #58
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What do you mean? All laws put the law abiding at a disadvantage in some way or another. Try again.
Okay so what? The right to arms is a fundamental right...and that is the key difference. The actions one chooses with it are what is criminal.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:04 AM   #59
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Do you agree that if someone willfully gave them guns, that person should be held accountable?
No, I do not agree. Hold the criminal accountable for how they use the gun. Guns are given as gifts among the law abiding every day. You are still wanting to punish the law abiding because of the act of a terrorist.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:10 AM   #60
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That's what we'd like an answer to, yes?

Or is it that you don't care about that answer and just want to beat your chest and bluster?
there is no way to control criminals from getting whatever they want whenever they want. pretty good chance they will tell you to go fly a kite when you ask them where they got them.
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