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Old 04-22-2013, 09:46 PM  
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New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie(D) Unveils Sweeping Gun Control Plans

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Gov. Chris Christie unveiled gun control and violence prevention measures that are as comprehensive as they are ambitious.


Governor Chris Christie announces a plan to strengthen existing gun laws and background checks, bolster criminal penalties and treat the root causes of mass violence. (Governor’s Office/Tim Larsen)
Christie acknowledges there is no way to prevent all violence in our society, but he says it is the job of government to question, to scrutinize and to demand more in an attempt to address the problem.

The plan calls for expanding New Jersey’s already strict gun control laws, expanding government-funded mental health treatment, making it more difficult for kids buy or rent violent video games, requiring that would-be gun owners show government-issued IDs and bolstering penalties for gun-related crimes.

“It’s hard for me to sit here today and say, ‘If all these things got imposed we’d see an ‘X’ percentage drop in gun violence in this state.’ I don’t know,” said Christie. “Bad people are going to do bad things and so, would greater penalties deter people? You hope they do.”

Expanding New Jersey’s Already Stringent Gun Control Measures:

New Jersey has the second toughest gun laws in the country. The first facet of Christie’s plan seeks to make them even stricter.

This includes banning future purchases of the Barrett .50 Caliber. Christie’s plan would also strengthen the state’s background check requirement by requiring mental health records to be included during the process at the time of a firearm purchase. The plan requires gun buyers to present a valid government photo ID, along with the already-mandatory Firearms Purchaser Identification Card.

Mental Health And Violence:

At the announcement of Christie’s NJ SAFE Taskforce in January in the aftermath of Newtown, he talked about targeting and treating the root causes of violence. Too many times there are instances of unspeakable tragedy and the question is asked how such tragedy could have been prevented. His proposals is this area include;

Making it easier for health professionals and courts to require potentially dangerous people to receive the treatment they need whether it is in the form of inpatient or outpatient care. This will allow the monitoring of their progress and ensure they are receiving the kind of specific care they need.
Creating flexibility in the type of care an individual is receiving, making it easier for someone to move from inpatient to outpatient settings.
Changing the current standard of involuntary outpatient treatment to eliminate the uncertainty expressed by clinicians and courts regarding their authority to order this type of essential assistance.
Limiting Kids’ Access To Violent Video Games:

According to the Governor, too often lost in the debate about controlling gun violence in our society is the almost constant exposure young children and adults have to graphic violence. Part-three of his plan includes;

Requiring that retailers post at the point of sale the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ERSB) ratings. Additionally, requiring retailers to develop, maintain and conspicuously display their policy on selling video games with an M or AO rating.
Requiring Consent of a Legal Guardian. This is not different than the kind of parental supervision expected when a child under the age of 18 goes to see an R rated movie, Christie is requiring that a legal guardian provide consent when a minor purchases or rents a video game that has a rating of “Mature” or “Adult Only.”
Increasing Penalties For Gun-Related Crimes:

In a series of bills Christie seeks to impose or strengthen criminal penalties when it comes to selling firearms to convicted criminals, possessing a firearm with the intent to unlawfully transfer, hiring a “straw purchaser,” unlawfully possessing ammunition and engaging in firearms trafficking, among other areas.

In addition, Governor Christie is seeking to reform bail laws for gun-related crimes by restricting the release on bail for aggravated firearms offenses and increasing bail requirements for aggravated firearms crimes.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:08 AM   #16
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Listen to Republican Morning Joe saying the careers of those who didn't support Obama's gun control bill should be destroyed. He must be Pitt Gorilla's mentor.

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:09 AM   #17
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:14 AM   #18
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Listen to Republican Morning Joe saying the careers of those who didn't support Obama's gun control bill should be destroyed. He must be Pitt Gorilla's mentor.

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90% Where the **** do they get these bullshit numbers?
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:14 AM   #19
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Here's what I think the game plan is for gun control Republicans like Christie, or any gun controller:

Using polls as a popularity barometer, they figure they can get elected...then trounce the Constitution which is supposed to protect the minority from the majority when it comes to a fundamental right. Here, the people will go along with it...out of fear.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:16 AM   #20
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where have I said anything like that? I assume you can provide a quote vis-a-vis gun control.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:17 AM   #21
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90% Where the **** do they get these bullshit numbers?
Someone on another board, cited numerous ones and linked them. However, another polls showed people didn't think gun control was a priority but the economy was. Furthermore, the more Obama and his radicals push for more gun control, the more people see what they're really about.

Anyhow, my beef with polls is that the big guns of the media hog the airways and frame the debate or message...then they follow it up with a poll to see if their propaganda is working. They influence the polls results. The longer the debate continues though with alternative views other things can be seen wrong. Then there's the alternative media...which the MSM and officials hate because the gateway keepers are less important.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:18 AM   #22
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where have I said anything like that? I assume you can provide a quote vis-a-vis gun control.
It's your general progressive, non-Republican stands. Kinda like Joe.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #23
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Here's what I think the game plan is for Politicians in general:

Using polls as a popularity barometer, they figure they can get elected...then trounce the Constitution which is supposed to protect the minority from the majority when it comes to a fundamental right. Here, the people will go along with it...out of fear.
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:48 PM   #24
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What would be the point of banning the Barrett .50 Cal? Its not really a weapon of choice for criminals. I would bet they are used in 0% of crimes. They are extremely expensive to purchase and shoot. You sure as hell aren't hiding one under your trench coat.

Proposals like these are what makes the proponets of gun control seem so disingenuous. It will not make the streets any safer.
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I don't see that happening with politicians in general on this issue but mainly the ones on the left.
I can see that with the right, such as listening to Fox on certain issues like war though.
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It's your general progressive, non-Republican stands. Kinda like Joe.
I see. By that logic, you must be Glenn Beck or, at the very least, his biggest fan.
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I see. By that logic, you must be Glenn Beck or, at the very least, his biggest fan.
I don't watch Beck at all. But it's obvious you're a tard.
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Wow, you guys are impossible. I don't like the idea of banning any kind of guns, but there are some things this initiative gets right.

He's talking about stricter punishment of existing gun laws including illegal firearm sales. Limiting the amount of violence in video games. And actually trying to test some things out in figuring out the mental health part of the equation. These are all positions the gun control nazis are avoiding, but Christie gets it right, and I believe these are all things the NRA agrees with as well.

I understand that if you ban one gun, that sets up a slippery slope. But people are acting like all that's proposed when in fact this is one of the few proposals I've seen that actually claims that mental health and poor enforcement of existing laws are the root cause, not an average Joe who carries responsibly.
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I don't watch Beck at all. But it's obvious you're a tard.
I love that employing your line of reasoning makes me a "tard".
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Wow, you guys are impossible. I don't like the idea of banning any kind of guns, but there are some things this initiative gets right.

He's talking about stricter punishment of existing gun laws including illegal firearm sales. Limiting the amount of violence in video games. And actually trying to test some things out in figuring out the mental health part of the equation. These are all positions the gun control nazis are avoiding, but Christie gets it right, and I believe these are all things the NRA agrees with as well.

I understand that if you ban one gun, that sets up a slippery slope. But people are acting like all that's proposed when in fact this is one of the few proposals I've seen that actually claims that mental health and poor enforcement of existing laws are the root cause, not an average Joe who carries responsibly.
Not really wild about any politician's social experiment with taxpayer money that involves taking away what's currently legal. Especially when the proposer readily admits he has no clue if it will work or not.
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