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Old 04-22-2013, 08:38 AM  
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Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

Mass. Police: Bomb Suspects Didn't Have Gun Permit

A Massachusetts police official say the brothers suspected of bombing the Boston Marathon before having shootouts with authorities didn't have gun permits.

Cambridge Police Commissioner Robert Haas tells The Associated Press in an interview Sunday that neither Tamerlan Tsarnaev (tsahr-NEYE'-ehv) nor his brother Dzhokhar had permission to carry firearms.

He says it's unclear whether either ever applied and the applications aren't considered public records.

But he says the 19-year-old Dzhokhar (joh-KHAR') would have been denied a permit because of his age. Only people 21 or older are allowed gun licenses in Massachusetts.

The suspects were also accused of hijacking a Mercedes on Thursday night.

Haas says the pair didn't release the driver, but he escaped when he was left alone while the two men entered a convenience store.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/m...0#.UXVLIbXFWSo
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:41 PM   #61
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No, I do not agree. Hold the criminal accountable for how they use the gun. Guns are given as gifts among the law abiding every day. You are still wanting to punish the law abiding because of the act of a terrorist.
No, I want to reduce the deadly gun culture IN America.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #62
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No, I want to reduce the deadly gun culture IN America.
We don't have a "deadly" gun culture. The amount of deaths to to gun violence every year is so small compared to things like lung cancer, drinking and so on. So if you want to take the utilitarian approach to save the most lives. Start there.


Either way I think we'd be pissing in the wind.
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:55 PM   #63
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No, I want to reduce the deadly gun culture IN America.
Then start by banning all black males under the age of 25 from owning a handgun.

We know where the crime is happening. We know who is committing the crime. Go tackle it slick.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:45 PM   #64
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We don't have a "deadly" gun culture. The amount of deaths to to gun violence every year is so small compared to things like lung cancer, drinking and so on. So if you want to take the utilitarian approach to save the most lives. Start there.


Either way I think we'd be pissing in the wind.
When comparing gun violence to other first world countries, yes we do.
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:45 PM   #65
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Then start by banning all black males under the age of 25 from owning a handgun.

We know where the crime is happening. We know who is committing the crime. Go tackle it slick.
Tell you what, slick, why don't we just target all criminal gun activity?
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:49 PM   #66
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Tell you what, slick, why don't we just target all criminal gun activity?
Why don't we then? Instead of trying to ban "Assault Weapons", and take away guns from law abiding citizens, why doesn't the government use the existing laws we have to prosecute those that obtain and use guns illegally?
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:53 PM   #67
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Why don't we then? Instead of trying to ban "Assault Weapons", and take away guns from law abiding citizens, why doesn't the government use the existing laws we have to prosecute those that obtain and use guns illegally?
Because the NRA has effectively hamstrung the enforcement of "these rules". Everybody likes to talk about "enforcing the rules on the books", but nobody talks about the lobbyist effort to make departments like the ATF toothless in pursuing them.
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Tell you what, slick, why don't we just target all criminal gun activity?
does that mean we can no impose further restrictions on people from legally owning them?
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:54 PM   #69
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does that mean we can no impose further restrictions on people from legally owning them?
I don't know what the solution is, but you sound like you have the makings of good NRA lobbyist.
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I don't know what the solution is, but you sound like you have the makings of good NRA lobbyist.

Yes he does... Where do I send my check
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I'll be happy to target all criminal gun activity. but leave my shit alone. I'm legal.

I'm all for a minimum, no parole, sentence for anyone caught with an illegal weapon, or comits a crime with one. Not sure what that sentence would be....15, 25?...but something that would eventually deter all but the complete morons from using one without considering the heavy penalties.
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Yes he does... Where do I send my check
Make it out to "Killing U.S. Citizens Is Our Job!"
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No, I do not agree. Hold the criminal accountable for how they use the gun. Guns are given as gifts among the law abiding every day. You are still wanting to punish the law abiding because of the act of a terrorist.
when someone drives drunk, lets blame the car!!
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Make it out to "Killing U.S. Citizens Is Our Job!"
Make it out to "that is complete utter bullshit"
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I'll be happy to target all criminal gun activity. but leave my shit alone. I'm legal.

I'm all for a minimum, no parole, sentence for anyone caught with an illegal weapon, or comits a crime with one. Not sure what that sentence would be....15, 25?...but something that would eventually deter all but the complete morons from using one without considering the heavy penalties.
I don't think most people are opposed to legal private small arms ownership. Arsenal stockpiling, a lot of people have a problem with, however.

A deadly gun culture isn't limited to criminal activity. Suicide is also part of that, and by a large margin, rural white males are the ones who make up that demographic.
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