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Old 04-24-2013, 08:48 AM  
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Asshat Republican Wants First Graders to Work for Food

Making Children -we're talking first grade to sixth grade- be forced to work to get a meal is the ultimate in "compassionate conservatism." JFC, is there no end to the idiocy?

http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/W...200267021.html

A West Virginia lawmaker floated the idea during floor debate in the state's House of Delegates of having school children work as janitors, the Associated Press reports.

The West Virginia House recently passed a school lunch bill on an overwhelmingly bipartisan basis, by a vote of 89-9, according to the Associated Press. The Feed to Achieve Act would establish nonprofits to solicit private donations to go toward providing every child with a breakfast and lunch at no cost.

But one Republican suggested that was a misguided notion.

"I think it would be a good idea if perhaps we had the kids work for their lunches: trash to be taken out, hallways to be swept, lawns to be mowed, make them earn it," Del. Ray Canterbury (R-Greenbrier) said during floor debate. "If they miss a lunch or they miss a meal they might not, in that class that afternoon, learn to add, they may not learn to diagram a sentence, but they'll learn a more important lesson."

Canterbury argued that providing students with free lunches would destroy their work ethic and show them "there's an easy way," the Charleston Gazette reported.

"I'm offended anybody in this body would dare say a child has to work for their meals," responded Del. Meshea Poore (D-Kanawha), according to the Gazette. "I can't believe someone would say a first-grader, a second-grader ... a fifth-grader has to labor before they eat. This isn't an entitlement bill."

According to a 2004 report from the Annie E. Casey Foundation, children in West Virginia [PDF] were almost twice as likely to live in neighborhoods with a high poverty rate, compared to the national average. The group also ranks West Virginia 47th nationally for education, with 79 percent of eighth graders not proficient in math and 73 percent of fourth graders not proficient in reading.

A national survey in 2012 from Share Our Strength's No Kid Hungry campaign found a majority of teachers report pupils coming to school hungry, which the group says makes it more difficult for students to concentrate.

Canterbury's suggestion was similar to a remark made by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich during a debate in the Republican presidential primary, when Gingrich suggested making poor students become janitors at their schools.

The Feed to Achieve Act now heads to the desk of West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin, who is expected to sign it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:03 PM   #76
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But that's why you distribute that work equally among ALL the kids and/or make that work voluntary which may come with rewards other than not hearing yourself digest your stomach lining.
I'm ok with that.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:07 PM   #77
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I'm ok with that.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:52 PM   #78
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We are also looking past the fact that the kids will most assuredly do a terrible job of cleaning, requiring the hiring of someone to do the cleaning anyway and therefore negating the cost benefit.
And if they DO a good job, the Janitor gets laid off. Then HIS kids have to clean the school or go hungry.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:57 PM   #79
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And if they DO a good job, the Janitor gets laid off. Then HIS kids have to clean the school or go hungry.
its a vicious cycle

damn kids come in here and take our jobs

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Old 04-24-2013, 04:36 PM   #80
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Change this to

"I think it would be a good idea if perhaps we had the kids parents work for their lunches:

and I'll give it some thought.
Good idea.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:54 PM   #81
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About parents taking care of their children? Absolutely.
Yep. That's what CPS is for. If you can't feed your kids, you probably shouldn't have any.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:25 PM   #82
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Kids today have know idea about what its like to have a paper rout, picking beans, de-tasseling ect. My kid thinks money grows on trees. No concept at all what i do or how hard I work to give her the things she wants. Its just a different world now.
Your statement is ridiculous. Most kids around here have de-tasseled at some point in time. It's almost a rite of passage and it pays really well.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:32 PM   #83
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Your statement is ridiculous. Most kids around here have de-tasseled at some point in time. It's almost a rite of passage and it pays really well.
There's even a well known young liberal (a liberal no less) on this board who detassled for seven summers as well had a paper route in grade school.

Kids these days! Liberals these days! Damn it all to hell!
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:35 PM   #84
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Your statement is ridiculous. Most kids around here have de-tasseled at some point in time. It's almost a rite of passage and it pays really well.
Where is here? My kid needs a splash of reality on where money & how you come by it is achieved
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:35 PM   #85
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Where is here? My kid needs a splash of reality on where money & how you come by it is achieved
How old is kid?
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:40 PM   #86
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How old is kid?
11 at the end of the month. & no appreciation for money. ZERO!

I'm thinking yard work & Skatedaze are gonna go hand in hand this summer.

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Maybe a program where the parents of the kids who can't afford lunch can volunteer to help the teacher out in the classroom for lunch credits?

A child shouldn't have to be starving though for any reason.
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11 at the end of the month. & no appreciation for money. ZERO!

I'm thinking yard work & Skatedaze are gonna go hand in hand this summer.
One of the great things about money is that not only can it get you stuff, but it can also make more money. A dollar today can be put into work and end up being two dollars tomorrow. I would try to replicate that lesson on a small scale.

Suppose that for every dollar he earns on yard work, see if he would save a simple dime from it. Make it mandatory at first. Then say you will invest that dime, with a 50% return on investment per week. After a week, he would have $.15. Then after another week, and another dime, he would have $.38.

Do this for 6 weeks. He might appreciate the notable difference between $.60 and his "investments" and take that lesson to heart.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:55 PM   #89
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I pay for all my kids meals. My lazy brat could use a dose of this.
This ****ing money grows on trees bullshit has to end.
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