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Old 05-01-2013, 08:02 PM  
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Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

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On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group his agents included were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #46
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So who has drafted a risky QB recently and won a SB?
the ravens

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #47
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So who has drafted a risky QB recently and won a SB?
the packers

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #48
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It takes a truly stupid person to even ask that question.

Seriously.
That's one hell of an answer.

Seriously answer the question, who the last "Risky" QB to win a SB.

I will be waiting while you hit Google and come up empty.

But yea I am dumb.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:35 PM   #49
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the packers

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taking Rodgers at 28 who was talked about as being #1 overall was risky? Keep proving your ignorance.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:35 PM   #50
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Are we really comparing Cam Newton to Geno Smith?


JFC, they aren't even close in ability.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:36 PM   #51
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the ravens

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Flacco in the middle of the 1st wasn't a risk.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:37 PM   #52
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So basically you're going to set the bar for what's risky and then move it when the names you're provided don't fit your agenda. Got it.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:38 PM   #53
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**** off dick head. Is that at home enough for you? My issue is you are a bunch of whining ass pussies.
No, your issue is that "we" pound the table for a quRterback EVERY YEAR until we actually get one. Your kind, on the other hand, wouldn't draft a quarterback early because they text and use twitter.

Do you even watch the NFL besides Chiefs games?

You must not because you love shitty quarterbacks, like Alex Myth.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:38 PM   #54
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taking Rodgers at 28 who was talked about as being #1 overall was risky? Keep proving your ignorance.
um, yeah, he had the most notorious fall in the first round until Geno

it's the very definition....the very thing used to prove Geno was a 'risk'

and we passed on him...
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:39 PM   #55
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That's a pretty damning article. He was texting friends and reading Twitter when he was supposed to be talking to coaches? WTF?

I'm starting to think Andy Reid and John Dorsey just might be smarter than SNR and Sweet Dick Willie.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft Geno. I'm willing to admit I was wrong.
It's not that anyone is smarter. It's that there's no possible way for any armchair GM to ever have all of the information that a professional does.

And my biggest complaint is that everyone here was taking their own opinion far, far, FAR too seriously.
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The great thing about this argument is that the answers will all present themselves in due time.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:40 PM   #57
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the ravens

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the packers

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JFC, are you really this stupid? Those weren't risky picks. Those were SAFE picks.

The closest comparison I can think of is St. Louis insisting upon using the #1 overall pick on Sam Bradford. The jury is still out on that, but the Rams haven't won dick yet with Bradford.
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Flacco in the middle of the 1st wasn't a risk.


i owned your ass, you're such a pussy

drafting a QB from Delaware with the #18 pick isn't risky?

A guy who beat no one in college?

you know how many Chiefs fans would have supported that?

none

you pathetic liar
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Drew Brees? Too short
Ben Rothlisberger? Small school
Joe Flacco? Small school
Aaron Rodgers? Tedford


Whew, good thing those guys don't text.

Then they would be a guaranteed bust.
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i owned your ass, you're such a pussy

drafting a QB from Delaware with the #18 pick isn't risky?

A guy who beat no one in college?

you know how many Chiefs fans would have supported that?

none

you pathetic liar
Yuo live in your own little world dude. You owned nothing but your mother.
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