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Old 05-01-2013, 05:08 PM  
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Albert not going anywhere.

No link. Just saw on NFLN Total Access. Albert will not be traded. Working on long term deal.

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:57 PM   #271
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Am I the only one who thinks Alex Smith will be surrounded by better offensive talent in KC than he was in SF?

KC WRs > SF WRs
Charles > Gore
Chiefs OL > SF OL
Chiefs TE < SF TE
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #272
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Smith did show, that with a competent organization he can be very successful. He was playing pretty well in 2012 when he got hurt.


The injury problems are the most concerning thing IMO.

Notice I say competent there too. As much pub as Harbaugh gets for being a QB guru, his offensive system doesnt' seem to be geared towards putting the load on the QB.

IMO, he seems to be a Martyballer in a sense.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #273
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1 playoff wins in 8 years. 38-36-1 record.


Nevermind, I forgot that Alex Smith is the only player in the league that gets the ability to omit seasons from his career.

I want him to be successful, but in his career, he hasn't shown that ability to do that. He's only played a full season twice in his 8 year career. A team can't win when their starting QB spends that much time on the bench.
I have heard all the bullshit from you guys I know the "stats" you want to spew.

I know this, he has played better for 4 years straight. I liked him in SF the last 2 years BEFORE we got him.

Unlike many other who liked him before I am sticking to my guns. He became a pariah as soon as we traded for another SF QB.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:58 PM   #274
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Am I the only one who thinks Alex Smith will be surrounded by better offensive talent in KC than he was in SF?

KC WRs > SF WRsWTF, no.
Charles > Gore
Chiefs OL > SF OLAgain, WTF?
Chiefs TE < SF TE 2/4 isn't bad.
No.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:01 PM   #275
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No.
You don't think our WR core is better?
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:01 PM   #276
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I have head all the bullshit from you guys I know the "stats" you want to spew.
And what stats do you want to spew? You're extremely selective with your stats also. Remember when you were arguing about his YPC and then in the middle of the argument switched to YPA because the stats proved you wrong? There are more stats that make Alex Smith look bad than the ones that make him look good.


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I know this, he has played better for 4 years straight. I liked him in SF the last 2 years BEFORE we got him.
He's started more than 10 games ONCE in the past 4 years.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:02 PM   #277
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Battered Fan Syndrome. Too many fans have been abused for so long that they fall into the trap of thinking every person involved with the Chiefs is going to abuse them even if they are brand new and there is no reason to think that way. It's irrational but completely understandable.
This, this, and this.

Been down this road so many times with this team that it's really tough for me to get excited about next season or any real sustained sucess with this team past the next 2 years.

How many more times does this team expect fans to see yet another vet QB be adequate, win anywhere between 9 & 11 games, go to the playoffs and lose in the first round? Am I supposed to be excited about this prospect and clap like a seal for a fish?

ALL RIGHT!! A RT TAKEN FIRST OVERALL!!! Trade away a 2nd round pick that is essentially a 1st round pick given the talent in this years draft? COOL!!!

Seriously, this is a team and franchise only George Allen could love.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:02 PM   #278
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You don't think our WR core is better?
Crabtree, Manningham, Moss, Williams are as good as Bowe, Avery, Baldwin, and McCluster
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:03 PM   #279
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The injury history for Smith is the most worrisome, IMO.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:04 PM   #280
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Crabtree, Manningham, Moss, Williams are as good as Bowe, Avery, Baldwin, and McCluster
Probably as good. I'll admit, i didn't watch a whole lot of the 9ers last year, but IIRC, Moss wasn't much.

But, neither were our WR's so there is that.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:04 PM   #281
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Andy Reid/Dorsey have been Chiefs for 4 months. The trade for Alex Smith was more of a reflection on what they thought about this QB class more than anything. If they were all in on him, they'd have given him an extension much like ***** did without merit.
I just disagree. I think the decision on Alex Smith was made in January, on the very first day that Clark met with Reid, before Reid even knew anything about any of the names in this draft class (at any position). I think that's the only guy that Reid's wanted all along, the known quantity and the guy he, for whatever reason, believes he can win with immediately. Because I think he, as a veteran coach whose prior team was on a steady decline, cares much more about the short term than the long. I believe that trade would have been made regardless of the quality of this draft class, or the QBs in it, and I don't think the fact that Smith hasn't been extended means anything, because he's not under a single-year contract. I believe that the true indicator of his value in the team's eyes lies in the insane compensation that they dealt to get him.

And this is not in any way, shape or form about Geno Smith. I never expected the Chiefs to draft him, and I was never upset that they didn't, nor do I care that the guy fell. He's just another name as far as this conversation goes. It's not about him. It's about Alex Smith, and how I believe the present and future of this team at quarterback is being built, and most likely will continue to be built. HE was their draft pick at quarterback. Dorsey has said as much (literally, at the draft party during the first round). And I don't believe that anything would have changed that, including the presence of Andrew Luck, or RG3, or Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan, or any other player you care to name. Because I don't believe that this franchise is willing, philosophically-speaking, to go that route. Because while I think they might, in ensuing years, pull the trigger on mid- to low-round quarterbacks as developmental prospects, I believe that they want a veteran as a starter, and that precludes the selection of anyone at the position on day 1 and likely even day 2.

Just my opinion. Don't think you're stupid if you disagree, and you might be right. I certainly don't work at Arrowhead, so I'm just making a guess.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:05 PM   #282
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The injury history for Smith is the most worrisome, IMO.
Wouldn't it be great if Chase Daniel had to come in a game.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:07 PM   #283
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And I don't believe that anything would have changed that, including the presence of Andrew Luck, or RG3, or Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan, or any other player you care to name.
LOL. k
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:07 PM   #284
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WRs:
KC: Bowe, Baldwin, Avery, McCluster, Hemingway, Copper, Wylie, Bellamy, Gilyard, Newsome,

49ers: Crabtree, Jenkins, Patton, Boldin, Manningham, Wlliams, Lockette, Hastings, Moore,

Advantage 49ers.

RBs:
KC: Charles, Davis, Draughn, Gray, Eachus ()
49ers: Gore, James, Hunter, Lattimore, Hampton

Charles is a better back but 49ers are incredibly deeper than KC. Advantage 49ers

TE:
KC: Fasano, Kelce, Brokeaki, Brock
49ers: Davis, McDonald, Celek, Morrah

This would be really close if Davis wasn't so mcuh better than any of the TEs on KC's roster. Fasano, Kelce, Moeaki (if he can stay healthy) is a pretty deep but not very sexy group on paper. Still, advantage 49ers
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:08 PM   #285
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> bad /= good
Yes I understand that. But moving in a positive direction is better than the last regime. I don't get into player arguments much because my opinion is no better than any other fan.

But there is no proof that Geno Smith is better than Alex Smith if they played under the same circumstances. None.

So the new front office weighs that and decides they want to first build an OL so whatever QB they plug in has the best chance of success. I don't have a problem with that.
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