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Old 05-01-2013, 05:40 PM  
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The criminalization of our children continues

Arrested, expelled and who knows what's gonna happen to her. But chances are, her life is ruined. Why? A science experiment with a water bottle and the cap blew off.

But she's just an unimportant person, not of any rich family or anything so who cares, right?

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A Florida teen with an exemplary record is facing federal charges after conducting what a classmate calls “a science project gone bad.”

16-year-old Kiera Wilmot is accused of mixing housing chemicals in a small water bottle at Bartow High School, causing the cap to fly off and produce a bit of smoke. The experiment was conducted outdoors, no property was damaged, and no one was injured.

Not long after Wilmot’s experiment, authorities arrested her and charged her with “possession/discharge of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device,” according to WTSP-TV. The school district proceeded to expel Wilmot for handling the “dangerous weapon,” also known as a water bottle. She will have to complete her high school education through an expulsion program.

Friends and staffers, including the school principal, came to Wilmot’s defense, telling media that authorities arrested an upstanding student who meant no harm.

"She is a good kid," principal Ron Richard told WTSP-TV. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."

"She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," a classmate added. "Now, look what happened."

Polk County Schools stands by its decision to expel Wilmot, asserting in a statement, “there are consequences to actions,” and calling Wilmot’s experiment a “serious breach of conduct.”
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:26 PM   #46
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There's nothing in the story that justifies the kid's punishment. I feel sorry for the kids today. I'm not even that old, yet most of the shit my group of friends and I were doing when we were kids would either be criminal or at least seriously frowned upon today.

The police state is ramping up, and it's partly because of the incredibly ****ing stupid and lazy pricks who defend horrible ideas like "no tolerance" rules and overreactive policing.
What the police do is seperate from what the school does. Due to lack of details, I have no idea if police action is warranted. It doesn't seem like there was there was intent to hurt anyone.

However, I don't think a school can just sit there and ignore a kid who is trying to create a small explosion. Again, this isn't an image of a gun or an inappropriate t-shirt. I don't see how someone can argue for a standard that says it is ok for kids to even goof around with chemicals for the purpose of causing an explosion. You want to allow your kids at home to do that, I guess it is up to the parent. I'd say a school has to be a bit more strict.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:27 PM   #47
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I believe that he was just suggesting that you start one of your own threads, (in DC), regarding the subject.
Why would I? Someone already started a thread, and it is here.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:28 PM   #48
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:30 PM   #49
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I said please and you fly off the handle. Don't let anger become you.
Oh, sorry, I didn't see the "please." Let me try again.

I didn't start the ****ing thread, so please go **** yourself, moron.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:32 PM   #50
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Oh, sorry, I didn't see the "please." Let me try again.

I didn't start the ****ing thread, so please go **** yourself, moron.
I'll pray for peace for you.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:39 PM   #51
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What the police do is seperate from what the school does. Due to lack of details, I have no idea if police action is warranted. It doesn't seem like there was there was intent to hurt anyone.

However, I don't think a school can just sit there and ignore a kid who is trying to create a small explosion. Again, this isn't an image of a gun or an inappropriate t-shirt. I don't see how someone can argue for a standard that says it is ok for kids to even goof around with chemicals for the purpose of causing an explosion. You want to allow your kids at home to do that, I guess it is up to the parent. I'd say a school has to be a bit more strict.
There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story, yet you're going zero tolerance anyway. You're part of the problem, not the solution.

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Old 05-01-2013, 11:45 PM   #52
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Schools aren't keeping the makings of chemical warheads out for easy access and, if they are, the school is the problem. There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story.
You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:46 PM   #53
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You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.
It would. But the charges just seem ridiculous.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:48 PM   #54
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You can create an explosion from common stuff you probably have right now in your garage or under your sink. For a kid to try that stuff at school is beyond stupid and potentially, quite dangerous. It would be pretty stupid of the school to simply shrug it off.
We created a small explosion in school when I was a kid, and we shattered a beaker in the process. Every one of us survived the experience, nobody got punished and the police were never called in. We were told to strictly follow the teacher's instructions from then on, and that was it.

I grant you that the students from the class next door did come running in to see what had happened, but none of them were injured or killed either.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:50 PM   #55
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Why would I? Someone already started a thread, and it is here.
Meh. Not worth explaining.

This thread was bound to end up in DC anyway.

Carry on...
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:57 PM   #56
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It would. But the charges just seem ridiculous.
That's up to the police. The prosecutor can sort out if the charges are warranted. Maybe they aren't. I'm talking about the school.
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There's not sufficient justification for the punishment in the story, yet you're going zero tolerance anyway. You're part of the problem, not the solution.
Yes. Zero tolerance for kids going off on their own to try to create explosions at school.
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Oh yeah, and here's my view on the subject... This country is getting soft and overreacts over stupid crap.

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The experiment was conducted outdoors, no property was damaged, and no one was injured.
BUT...the cap flew off and there was smoke!! Terrorist attack!! Arrest her!!
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Yes. Zero tolerance for kids going off on their own to try to create explosions at school.
Like I said, you're part of the problem.
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Oh yeah, and here's my view on the subject... This country is getting soft and overreacts over stupid crap.



BUT...the cap flew off and there was smoke!! Terrorist attack!! Arrest her!!
I just thank God that she didn't try the "can a vacuum suck an egg into a bottle?" experiment. We might all have been killed.
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