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Old 05-01-2013, 08:02 PM  
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Why Geno Smith fell in the draft

I've seen a couple other posts about this... but this probably deserves it's own thread considering how many hours we've wasted arguing about the guy. This is the first article I've seen theorizing why Geno fell in the draft. Time will tell whether it's accurate.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ge...183846651.html

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On April 23, Smith, his agents, some family members and several friends gathered for dinner in New York in advance of the draft, a gathering confirmed by a family member. At one point, everyone around the table stood to give a toast to celebrate the evening.

Smith went last, thanking everyone and declaring that entire group his agents included were a "family" that would stay together his entire career, if not the rest of his life, the sources said. Smith, who at one point was expecting to be the No. 1 overall pick and at least a top 10 selection, has big plans for his career. Smith, according to the sources, hopes to emulate players such as Peyton Manning, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, putting himself cut above the rest of the quarterback fray.

The problem is that NFL types see a guy who, right now, doesn't understand how to get there.

"His biggest problem is that he doesn't know what he doesn't know," said a league executive, who spent extensive time assessing Smith before the draft.

"I'm not sure he knows how to take instruction because he pretty much wouldn't listen or talk to our coaches he's talented. He can sling it, he can fit it into tight spots, he can do a lot of things and I think he wants to be good. But you can't tell him anything right now. He's tuned out because he thinks he's got it all down."

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One possible factor in Smith dropping to the second round is a concern about leadership.

"He doesn't have much presence, not much of a leader," said another league executive, who spent a great deal of time studying Smith before the draft. "I don't think he's a bad person, but that's not enough to be a quarterback in this league."

Two sources indicated that when Smith went on some visits to teams, rather than interact with coaches and front-office people, he would spend much of his time on his cell phone. Instead of being engaged with team officials, he would be texting friends or reading Twitter or a number of other distracting activities.

"All these other players who were in there were talking to the coaches, trying to get to know people and he was over there by himself," one of the sources said. "That's not what you want out of your quarterback."

Both sources indicated that Florida State's E.J. Manuel, who was selected ahead of Smith at No. 16 overall by Buffalo, was far more impressive in terms of his personality and maturity.

"Manuel gets it, he gets the whole big picture of what it takes to lead a team," one of the league executives said.

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By Sunday, Smith was being convinced by other friends that it was the fault of his agents that he slipped so much in the draft, according to one of the sources.

"Right now, he's blaming everybody but himself and he has some buddies around him who are telling him that same thing," the source said.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:45 AM   #226
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OK, the Geno thing has officially reached the "laughable" point. You guys are ridiculous.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:45 AM   #227
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Tyler Bray was an undrafted free agent, Geno would've gone 1.1. Terrible comparison.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:48 AM   #228
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Tyler Bray was an undrafted free agent, Geno would've gone 1.1. Terrible comparison.
oh, so if you're drafted high, you can't be developed

but if your a udfa douche bag (biggest in draft, bar none), you can magically be developed?

that makes sense because why?
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:49 AM   #229
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Anyone who lists a quarterback that we should have taken over say Tyson Jackson, Dorsey, Baldwin, etc. should probably list the next QB taken – not the best QB taken with benefit of hindsight.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:49 AM   #230
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won't see you in any bray threads ever as well...
Yeah you will bashing that POS too.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:49 AM   #231
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The facts are that all of you Geno bashers on a witch hunt look just as ****ing stupid or more than the people who are Geno ball washers right now.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:53 AM   #232
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Yeah you will bashing that POS too.
i love him, glad we grabbed him...think his chances of being anything are about .001%

but then again, I'm consistent about QBs

i don't say embarrassingly stupid things like "Geno Smith is too arrogant to draft! too risky!...Tyler Bray's arrogance will be controlled by Reid!! QBOTF!!"


i think I'll start a spreadsheet to keep all the names of the hypocrites
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:54 AM   #233
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so we're trading Bray for a full back today?
You're a ****ing idiot. Bray was an UDFA. Not a Round 1 or 2 draft pick. Eat a dick and die. I hate fat people. You walking piles of stink, you never wash between all of your fat folds and end up smelling like the dead.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:55 AM   #234
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oh, so if you're drafted high, you can't be developed

but if your a udfa douche bag (biggest in draft, bar none), you can magically be developed?

that makes sense because why?
If Bray fails, we lose nothing.

All the QB needy teams passed on Geno in the first round (let alone first overall), that should tell you something.

After all this, I'm glad we passed on him.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:57 AM   #235
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If Bray fails, we lose nothing.

All the QB needy teams passed on Geno in the first round (let alone first overall), that should tell you something.

After all this, I'm glad we passed on him.
all teams in the nfl passed on Bray 7 times...that does tell you something, the NFL values Smith and doesn't value Bray at all

but thanks for using the 'it risky!!' excuse in every thread you post...cracks me up
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:59 AM   #236
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every single true fan cliche in one tidy paragraph

"not worth it"
"risk"
"not good enough" (for 2-14 chiefs)
"next year" (maybe)


are you a marcellus dupe?
Being you're such a pillowbiter for Geno, why don't you convert to a Jets fan? A real Chiefs fan will always be a Chiefs supporter first. Your bitching and complaining because your pussy still hurts over not drafting Geno. Are you a ****ing Chiefs fan, or a Geno fan. You can't be both. We didn't draft Geno, move on or get the **** out.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:59 AM   #237
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What gets the non Geno ball sniffers going in a thread like this is that there simply wasn't a QB worth drafting at #1, yet certain CPers were willing to take a huge and stupid risk just to say the chiefs finally tried. That is just plain stupidity. SNR, Bosschief, you two in particular, are less credible as more of the Geno Smith shortcomings come out. The "if he busts, but at least we tried" argument is horseshit. The Chiefs will draft a QB when one is there that is worth it.
If you don't have a good QB and you aren't drafting one then you ain't tryin.
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So you still wanted Geno 1.1?
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:00 AM   #239
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Being you're such a pillowbiter for Geno, why don't you convert to a Jets fan? A real Chiefs fan will always be a Chiefs supporter first. Your bitching and complaining because your pussy still hurts over not drafting Geno. Are you a ****ing Chiefs fan, or a Geno fan. You can't be both. We didn't draft Geno, move on or get the **** out.
i've got your name down, you can stop posting

and I look forward to not seeing you in any Bray thread
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all teams in the nfl passed on Bray 7 times...that does tell you something, the NFL values Smith and doesn't value Bray at all

but thanks for using the 'it risky!!' excuse in every thread you post...cracks me up
Yeah, it tells me he's a cheaper douche bag, and much easier to kick to the curb if he can't be bothered to learn anything.
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