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Old 05-01-2013, 06:40 PM  
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The criminalization of our children continues

Arrested, expelled and who knows what's gonna happen to her. But chances are, her life is ruined. Why? A science experiment with a water bottle and the cap blew off.

But she's just an unimportant person, not of any rich family or anything so who cares, right?

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A Florida teen with an exemplary record is facing federal charges after conducting what a classmate calls “a science project gone bad.”

16-year-old Kiera Wilmot is accused of mixing housing chemicals in a small water bottle at Bartow High School, causing the cap to fly off and produce a bit of smoke. The experiment was conducted outdoors, no property was damaged, and no one was injured.

Not long after Wilmot’s experiment, authorities arrested her and charged her with “possession/discharge of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device,” according to WTSP-TV. The school district proceeded to expel Wilmot for handling the “dangerous weapon,” also known as a water bottle. She will have to complete her high school education through an expulsion program.

Friends and staffers, including the school principal, came to Wilmot’s defense, telling media that authorities arrested an upstanding student who meant no harm.

"She is a good kid," principal Ron Richard told WTSP-TV. "She has never been in trouble before. Ever."

"She just wanted to see what happened to those chemicals in the bottle," a classmate added. "Now, look what happened."

Polk County Schools stands by its decision to expel Wilmot, asserting in a statement, “there are consequences to actions,” and calling Wilmot’s experiment a “serious breach of conduct.”
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:01 AM   #76
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:01 AM   #77
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:19 AM   #78
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You can't seriously be ok with a zero tolerance policy, and yet you are. And, according to the article, the girl claims that she thought it would lead to smoke, not an explosion, so you either still haven't read the article or you're choosing to ignore that part of it.
So it's okay for teenagers who have no idea what they're doing to mix chemicals causing an explosion at school as long a they were only trying to create chemical smoke? That's your position on chemical induced explosions at high schools?

Let's just let kids bring chemicals onto school grounds and mix them together to satisfy their curiosity. If they explode, it's okay as long as A) nobody gets hurt AND B) the kids are only trying to get the chemicals to start smoking. As long as any explosions resulting from untrained teenagers mixing chemicals together before school are unintentional, there will be no consequences. This policy is stern but fair.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:22 AM   #79
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So it's okay for teenagers who have no idea what they're doing to mix chemicals causing an explosion at school as long a they were only trying to create chemical smoke? That's your position on chemical induced explosions at high schools?

Let's just let kids bring chemicals onto school grounds and mix them together to satisfy their curiosity. If they explode, it's okay as long as A) nobody gets hurt AND B) the kids are only trying to get the chemicals to start smoking. As long as any explosions resulting from untrained teenagers mixing chemicals together before school are unintentional, there will be no consequences. This policy is stern but fair.
Should she be in trouble? Yes. Should she be expelled? Probably. Should she be expelled forever? No. Should she be arrested and charged with “possession/discharge of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device"? Hell no.
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Should she be in trouble? Yes. Should she be expelled? Probably. Should she be expelled forever? No. Should she be arrested and charged with “possession/discharge of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device"? Hell no.
I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. That said, this story is clearly written with a bias, comes from a very questionable source, and is severely lacking in detail. Experience tells me that, when you read something like this that makes the authorities look this ridiculous, there's probably more to the story.
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So, having the cap pop off with a little smoke is now an explosion?

Be careful out there and don't shake your pop up too much.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:32 AM   #82
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. That said, this story is clearly written with a bias, comes from a very questionable source, and is severely lacking in detail. Experience tells me that, when you read something like this that makes the authorities look this ridiculous, there's probably more to the story.
My issue is with it being called a weapon. It's not a weapon. It was an idiotic thing to do, but at worst it was negligent and dangerous behavior, not malicious behavior.
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comes from a very questionable source, and is severely lacking in detail.
I saw it on a CBS news site earlier but the story is gone now. May be BS.
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So, having the cap pop off with a little smoke is now an explosion?

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So you read Bump's intro and decided that it was just a cap popping off? You really feel that you have enough information to criticize the school and police based on the little sliver of information you've been provided?

A student mixed chemicals at a school (on her own, mind you...this wasn't in a science lab under instruction of a certified science teacher) in an attempt to create a chemical gas. It exploded.

That is what we know.

What the school and authorities know is how big the explosion was and what the chemicals were. If we're talking about baking soda and vinegar...she shouldn't be arrested. If we're talking about ammonia and bleach...which will create "smoke", by the way...it's a different story. Given the fact that the authorities are privy to this incredibly important detail while the biased source omitted it, I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach before grabbing my pitchfork.
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My issue is with it being called a weapon. It's not a weapon. It was an idiotic thing to do, but at worst it was negligent and dangerous behavior, not malicious behavior.
That may be. Then again, we don't really know what it was. The police had to provide a reason. It's up to the justice system to actually pursue charges. The article doesn't say if they have decided on formal charges. It doesn't say anything, really.
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So it's okay for teenagers who have no idea what they're doing to mix chemicals causing an explosion at school as long a they were only trying to create chemical smoke? That's your position on chemical induced explosions at high schools?

Let's just let kids bring chemicals onto school grounds and mix them together to satisfy their curiosity. If they explode, it's okay as long as A) nobody gets hurt AND B) the kids are only trying to get the chemicals to start smoking. As long as any explosions resulting from untrained teenagers mixing chemicals together before school are unintentional, there will be no consequences. This policy is stern but fair.
You're not the only one doing this, but I'm going to pick on you anyway.

Where in the hell in that story does it say anything about an "explosion"?
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So you read Bump's intro and decided that it was just a cap popping off? You really feel that you have enough information to criticize the school and police based on the little sliver of information you've been provided?
No, I was referring to you calling the cap popping off (as stated in the article) an "explosion".

As for the idea that being arrested must mean that it was a dangerous explosion, yeah- cops never, ever over-react to stupid shit.

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You're not the only one doing this, but I'm going to pick on you anyway.

Where in the hell in that story does it say anything about an "explosion"?
She was arrested. That means she must have almost leveled the school with her pop bottle.
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So you read Bump's intro and decided that it was just a cap popping off? You really feel that you have enough information to criticize the school and police based on the little sliver of information you've been provided?

A student mixed chemicals at a school (on her own, mind you...this wasn't in a science lab under instruction of a certified science teacher) in an attempt to create a chemical gas. It exploded.

That is what we know.

What the school and authorities know is how big the explosion was and what the chemicals were. If we're talking about baking soda and vinegar...she shouldn't be arrested. If we're talking about ammonia and bleach...which will create "smoke", by the way...it's a different story. Given the fact that the authorities are privy to this incredibly important detail while the biased source omitted it, I'm going to take a wait-and-see approach before grabbing my pitchfork.
So I see you already addressed this while I was writing my post.

You are cautioning others to not jump to conclusions about what happened, while you are still calling it an explosion, even though that particular word is never mentioned in the article.
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So I see you already addressed this while I was writing my post.

You are cautioning others to not jump to conclusions about what happened, while you are still calling it an explosion, even though that particular word is never mentioned in the article.
A chemical reaction caused (as a biased source puts it) a cap to pop off. It was enough of a reaction that, even though it was done outside, it got the attention of someone. If you've got a better term than "explosion", I'm open to it.
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