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Old 12-11-2012, 08:59 AM  
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2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

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Old 05-02-2013, 07:09 PM   #3421
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As for the rotation...

Mendoza has been victim to a lot of skipping and jerking around, which makes it hard to find a rhythm. I'm sure he'll get a few more starts to try and straighten himself out. But not much more leash than that.

Davis is going to get a Hochevar-esque leash, I think. They need him to succeed as a starter and gave up significant pieces in order to obtain him. His performance has been uneven, but the one positive is that his K rate is up from his previous days as a starter (it's sitting at 7.1 K/9, which is respectable).

I think Ventura needs a little more seasoning before he can be an MLB starter (pitch efficiency seems to be a big issue with him), but all other aspects of his game look great.
I agree with this...but Mendoza is what he is...your next recently overachieving Royals pitcher whom everyone seems to think he's something he's not. He's a garbage man...someone you need to stick out there a couple few innings a couple times a week to give the pen needed rest. He's not a starter and should be sent to the pen once Paulino and Duffy get back.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #3422
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Yeah...don't know why I'm so pissed about it, but I really am. I left work early to go watch and everything.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:15 PM   #3423
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I agree with this...but Mendoza is what he is...your next recently overachieving Royals pitcher whom everyone seems to think he's something he's not. He's a garbage man...someone you need to stick out there a couple few innings a couple times a week to give the pen needed rest. He's not a starter and should be sent to the pen once Paulino and Duffy get back.
I'd rather see Davis sent to the bullpen if he doesn't show to be any better in about 2 more outings.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:24 PM   #3424
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I'd leave Davis in the rotation all year. He's part of the future rotation in any circumstance and no options exist outside him. I like Mendoza but he's expendable if Paulino comes back. I'd love to believe in Duffy but maybe next year when Santana is gonzo
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:24 PM   #3425
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I agree with this...but Mendoza is what he is...your next recently overachieving Royals pitcher whom everyone seems to think he's something he's not. He's a garbage man...someone you need to stick out there a couple few innings a couple times a week to give the pen needed rest. He's not a starter and should be sent to the pen once Paulino and Duffy get back.
How many #5 starters on any team are really all that great?

Hes ok for what he is. Honestly, his starts are the types of nights you really need to lean on your offense to bring you a win.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:27 PM   #3426
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I agree with this...but Mendoza is what he is...your next recently overachieving Royals pitcher whom everyone seems to think he's something he's not. He's a garbage man...someone you need to stick out there a couple few innings a couple times a week to give the pen needed rest. He's not a starter and should be sent to the pen once Paulino and Duffy get back.
Mendoza had a 1.6 WAR last year in 25 starts. He earned a shot at the 5th starter spot. That's about what he is, and I don't think anyone here thinks he's anything more than that.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #3427
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How many #5 starters on any team are really all that great?

Hes ok for what he is. Honestly, his starts are the types of nights you really need to lean on your offense to bring you a win.
Yep, Mendoza doesn't need defenders. Its not like he's a young player in a sophomore slump getting unfair criticism from impatient fans, he's almost 30, did OK last year, and earned his spot this spring, but he's still a #5 pitcher.

I don't even expect the Royals to win most of the games he starts, if we did better than a 2-wins-in-5 clip on games he starts, I'd be happy.
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I'd leave Davis in the rotation all year. He's part of the future rotation in any circumstance and no options exist outside him. I like Mendoza but he's expendable if Paulino comes back. I'd love to believe in Duffy but maybe next year when Santana is gonzo
If Davis is still struggling in late June or early July, then I'd think about demoting him if I had a better option and we were still in contention. He's too important for us to not keep running him out there. People need to understand what it means to demote him. It means he's just a good reliever who we have for just 2 years, same as Shields, because there's no way we'd pick up his 3 options if he's just a reliever. The Wil Myers trade would then hinge on Shields' ability to get us into the playoffs, we win or lose that trade based solely on that.
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