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FDA appeals making 'morning-after' pill available to all ages

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Terry Baynes
Reuters
8:00 p.m. CDT, May 1, 2013

(Reuters) - The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday appealed a court order directing the agency to make "morning-after" emergency contraception pills available without a prescription to all girls of reproductive age.

Lawyers with the Justice Department filed the appeal with the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York, according to court documents.

The appeal is the latest foray in the years-long legal battle over the pill known as "Plan B," a drug that has also sparked political and religious clashes. If taken up to 120 hours after unprotected sex, it is designed to prevent pregnancy.

The government is seeking to overturn U.S. District Judge Edward Korman's ruling from April 5 that required the FDA to make the emergency contraception available over-the-counter to women of all ages within 30 days.

The Justice Department has asked the district court to temporarily stop its order from taking effect while the appeal is pending, said FDA spokeswoman Erica Jefferson.

The district judge's ruling came in response to a lawsuit originally filed in 2005 by the Center for Reproductive Rights and other groups seeking to strike down age and access limits to the emergency contraception. They argued that there was no scientific proof that girls of reproductive age could not safely use the drug without supervision.

Korman's order reversed a surprise December 2011 decision by U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. At the time, the FDA had decided to approve over-the-counter sales with no age limits when Sebelius ordered it to reverse course, barring girls under 17 from buying the pills without a prescription.

President Barack Obama supported that restriction, invoking his daughters. But the timing, 11 months ahead of the presidential election, sparked criticism that he was trying to placate social conservatives.

In his ruling, Korman called Sebelius' decision "arbitrary, capricious and unreasonable."

"The motivation for the secretary's action was obviously political," he wrote.

Nancy Northup, president of the Center for Reproductive Rights, criticized the government's decision to appeal.

Obama's "administration has decided once again to deprive women of their right to obtain emergency contraception without unjustified and burdensome restrictions," she said in a statement.

Before filing its appeal, the FDA said on Tuesday that it would allow girls as young as 15 years old to buy without a prescription the Plan B One-Step emergency contraceptive, made by a unit of Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd.

The agency said its decision to lower the age limit for Plan B One-Step was based on scientific data submitted by Teva that showed girls as young as 15 could safely use the drug without the intervention of a healthcare provider. Cashiers will still have to verify the customer's age before selling it, the FDA said.

The case is Tummino et al. v. Hamburg et al., U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York, No. 12-763.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:47 AM   #76
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:59 AM   #77
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It's all well and good to debate parents "knowing" about the sexual activities of their children. And in most cases, it's smart practice.

But I think what often gets overlooked when discussing a parent's right to know if his or her 15 year old is sexually active is what happens to the child if the parent refuses to allow access to birth control or emergency contraception.

Point of order: I'm not condoning sexual activities from young teens, but anyone with the ability to use logic understands that abstinence is not going to work, and at some point most children will have sex in their teens. It's a biological thing.

What happens to the 15-year-old whose mom and dad are Catholic and don't believe in using birth control? (or don't believe in birth control for any reason, even if it's just trying to promote abstinence for their kid)

That child doesn't have access to birth control. That child certainly wouldn't have access to emergency contraception if her parents were required to sign off on it.

That doesn't sit right with me.

Emergency contraception serves a critical need and prevents unwanted pregnancy. Its effect is really no different than taking birth control on an ongoing basis. It does the same thing - prevent implantation.

Abuse of emergency contraception exists, but it is less rampant than opponents insist.

Yes, young teens having sex is less than ideal. But we all know it's going to happen. I don't think it's fair or right to leave it entirely up to the parents whether their child has birth control access or not.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:05 AM   #78
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Maybe our schools should provide safe **** rooms for our kids too so they don't have to get it on in the back seats of their cars.
man i wish

in the heat of the moment one time in HS, i sat down too fast on one of those rigid, upward seat buckles in the middle of fooling around one night and about had it go up my ass. In a very non consensual, non loving way I might add. WITH A GIRL.

allowing me a **** room would have preventing such a dramatic experience from becoming ingrained in my fragile little mind.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:06 AM   #79
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:27 AM   #80
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It's all well and good to debate parents "knowing" about the sexual activities of their children. And in most cases, it's smart practice.

But I think what often gets overlooked when discussing a parent's right to know if his or her 15 year old is sexually active is what happens to the child if the parent refuses to allow access to birth control or emergency contraception.

Point of order: I'm not condoning sexual activities from young teens, but anyone with the ability to use logic understands that abstinence is not going to work, and at some point most children will have sex in their teens. It's a biological thing.

What happens to the 15-year-old whose mom and dad are Catholic and don't believe in using birth control? (or don't believe in birth control for any reason, even if it's just trying to promote abstinence for their kid)

That child doesn't have access to birth control. That child certainly wouldn't have access to emergency contraception if her parents were required to sign off on it.

That doesn't sit right with me.

Emergency contraception serves a critical need and prevents unwanted pregnancy. Its effect is really no different than taking birth control on an ongoing basis. It does the same thing - prevent implantation.

Abuse of emergency contraception exists, but it is less rampant than opponents insist.

Yes, young teens having sex is less than ideal. But we all know it's going to happen. I don't think it's fair or right to leave it entirely up to the parents whether their child has birth control access or not.
Why do you think you need to meddle with that parent/child relationship and fix it? Why not let those families decide how best to mitigate risk and deal with consequences?
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:30 AM   #81
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Why do you think you need to meddle with that parent/child relationship and fix it? Why not let those families decide how best to mitigate risk and deal with consequences?
Because taxpayers often end up helping pay for the "consequences".
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:36 AM   #82
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Why do you think you need to meddle with that parent/child relationship and fix it? Why not let those families decide how best to mitigate risk and deal with consequences?
I'm not trying to fix anything.

I'm saying the teenager (we'll call her Sally) should have some outlets to protect herself from unwanted pregnancy if her parents are unwilling to help her do it or forbid her from doing it.

I'd rather Sally be able to get birth control without her parents consent than not. By extension, I"d rather her be able to get emergency contraception, too.

We all know that saying Sally should just not have sex is a foolish and unrealistic.
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Because taxpayers often end up helping pay for the "consequences".
the taxpayers ALWAYS help pay for the consequences via the great "Child Tax Credit" if the parents don't make a combined salary of AT LEAST $100k ( IE 99.9 percent of cases)
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Because taxpayers often end up helping pay for the "consequences".
Does that mean that if, for example, anal sex leads to increased incidence of some kind of medical condition that impacts our taxpayers through healthcare expenses that it would be legitimate to reinstate anti-sodomy laws?
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I'm not trying to fix anything.

I'm saying the teenager (we'll call her Sally) should have some outlets to protect herself from unwanted pregnancy if her parents are unwilling to help her do it or forbid her from doing it.

I'd rather Sally be able to get birth control without her parents consent than not. By extension, I"d rather her be able to get emergency contraception, too.

We all know that saying Sally should just not have sex is a foolish and unrealistic.
Yes, that's exactly what you're trying to do. You're trying to substitute your judgment for that of Sally's parents and fix what you perceive as a problem because her parents apparently don't perceive it that way. Another way to put this is that you're trying to impose your morality on Sally's family.
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Does that mean that if, for example, anal sex leads to increased incidence of some kind of medical condition that impacts our taxpayers through healthcare expenses that it would be legitimate to reinstate anti-sodomy laws?
Increase risk of colon cancer.
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Yes, that's exactly what you're trying to do. You're trying to substitute your judgment for that of Sally's parents and fix what you perceive as a problem because her parents apparently don't perceive it that way. Another way to put this is that you're trying to impose your morality on Sally's family.
I'm not imposing morality on Sally or Sally's family.

I'm making the choice available for Sally should she want to use it. Sally is the one making the morality choices, just like she is when she chooses to be sexually active.
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Because teenage girls are well known for their open communication with their parents, and especially their sexual habits.
That's why the parent should approach the kid and initiate the talk, imo. It will be awkward, of course, but nobody said being a parent was easy.
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I'm not imposing morality on Sally or Sally's family.

I'm making the choice available for Sally should she want to use it. Sally is the one making the morality choices, just like she is when she chooses to be sexually active.
Of course you are. Your value is that a 15 year old girl should have independent choice in the matter. You want to impose that value on others who believe that parents should have a say until their daughter becomes an adult.
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