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Old 05-02-2013, 09:12 AM  
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BURKESVILLE, Ky. (AP) — As Stephanie Sparks cleaned the kitchen, her 5-year-old son, Kristian, began playing with a rifle he was given last year.

She stepped out onto the front porch, poured grease out of a frying pan for the dogs and “heard the gun go off,” a Kentucky coroner said.
Authorities said the boy had fatally shot his 2-year-old sister, Caroline, in the chest.

In rural southern Kentucky, far removed from the national debate over gun control, where some children get their first guns even before they start first grade, the accident stunned the community.

Kristian’s rifle was kept in a corner of the mobile home, and the family didn’t realize a bullet had been left in it, Cumberland County Coroner Gary White said.

“Down in Kentucky where we’re from, you know, guns are passed down from generation to generation,” White said. “You start at a young age with guns for hunting and everything.”

What is more unusual than a child having a gun, he said, is “that a kid would get shot with it.”

In this case, the rifle was made by a company that sells guns specifically for children — “My first rifle” is the slogan — in colors ranging from plain brown to hot pink to royal blue to multi-color swirls.

“It’s a normal way of life, and it’s not just rural Kentucky, it’s rural America — hunting and shooting and sport fishing. It starts at an early age,”
Cumberland County Judge Executive John Phelps said. “There’s probably not a household in this county that doesn’t have a gun.”

In Cumberland County, as elsewhere in Kentucky, local newspapers feature photos of children proudly displaying their kills, including turkey and deer. Even one of the latest reality shows on CMT, “Guntucky,” features a family-owned gun range in Kentucky. The range, Knob Creek, says on its website that it is as a safe place for youngsters to learn about firearms and offers family memberships.

Ruby Wright, who teaches hunter safety classes in Burkesville, said children younger than 9 can sit in, but they can’t get certification. She also coaches 4-H shooting sports, requiring those children to be 9 as well.

Phelps, who is much like a mayor in these parts, said it had been four or five years since there had been a shooting death in the county, which lies along the Cumberland River near the Tennessee state line.

“The whole town is heartbroken,” Phelps said of Burkesville, a farming community of 1,800 about 90 miles northeast of Nashville, Tenn. “This was a total shock. This was totally unexpected.”

Phelps said he knew the family well. He said the father, Chris Sparks, works as a logger at a mill and also shoes horses.

The family lives in a gray mobile home on a long, winding road, surrounded by rolling hills and farmland that’s been in the family since the 1930s. Toys, including a small truck and a basketball goal, were on the front porch, but no one was home Wednesday.

There’s a house across the street, but the next-closest neighbor lives over a hill.

Family friend Logan Wells said he received a frantic call telling him that the little girl was in an accident and to come quickly.

When he got to the hospital, Caroline was already dead. “She passed just when I got there,” Wells said.

White said the shooting had been ruled accidental, though a police spokesman said it was unclear whether any charges will be filed.

“I think it’s too early to say whether there will or won’t be,” Trooper Billy Gregory said.

White said the boy received the .22-caliber rifle as a gift, but it wasn’t clear who gave him the gun, which is known as a Crickett.

“It’s a little rifle for a kid. … The little boy’s used to shooting the little gun,” White said.

The company that makes the rifle, Milton, Pa.-based Keystone Sporting Arms, has a “Kids Corner” on its website with pictures of young boys and girls at shooting ranges and on bird and deer hunts. It says the company produced 60,000 Crickett and Chipmunk rifles for kids in 2008. The smaller rifles are sold with a mount to use at a shooting range.

Keystone also makes guns for adults, but most of its products are geared toward children, including books, hats and bright orange vests.

“The goal of KSA is to instill gun safety in the minds of youth shooters and encourage them to gain the knowledge and respect that hunting and shooting activities require and deserve,” the website said.

No one at the company answered the phone Wednesday.

According to the website, company founders Bill McNeal and his son Steve McNeal decided to make guns for young shooters in the mid-1990s and opened Keystone in 1996 with just four employees, producing 4,000 rifles that year. It now employs about 70 people.

It also has a long list of testimonials from parents who talk about how grateful they are to be able to go shooting with their children. All of the guns have safety locks, and some even have ones that require a key.

Police did not release the model of the rifle Kristian had.

Sharon Rengers, a longtime child advocate at Kosair Children’s Hospital in Louisville, said making and marketing weapons specifically for children was “mind-boggling.”

“It’s like, oh, my God,” she said, “we’re having a big national debate whether we want to check somebody’s background, but we’re going to offer a 4-year-old a gun and expect something good from that?”

State Rep. Robert R. Damron, a Democrat and an outspoken gun rights advocate in Kentucky, said the problem is not guns, but the parents who do not teach gun safety and responsibility.

“Why single out firearms? Why not talk about all the other things that endanger children, too?” he said. “The Second Amendment doesn’t give anybody carte blanche freedom to put children and juveniles at risk.”
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:37 PM   #76
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You're wrong, but that's not surprising. Just like it's not surprising you would defend their gross negligence.
I'm not defending anything, douche. I just think they've suffered enough.

It cracks me up how you loving liberal types start foaming at the mouth for blood and vengeance when any sort of "redneck" is involved in a story like this.
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Old 05-02-2013, 03:38 PM   #77
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In hindsight, if he didn't bag his sister at two, he would have bagged her at 12. This is a house trailer in rural Kentucky we're talking about.....
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Yes. I imagine he'll be safer wherever he goes, by definition.
Wow, really? I never would have guessed you'd feel that way. By all means, let's dump him in an orphanage immediately. Preferrably an inner city orphanage, where they can beat all the redneck out of him before it's too late.

I guess you'll be wanting to disarm anybody who has children, too. Or lives within close proximity (say, 100 miles or so) of a child. Right?

Can't be too careful, after all.
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In hindsight, if he didn't bag his sister at two, he would have bagged her at 12. This is a house trailer in rural Kentucky we're talking about.....
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That boy must feel awful. His parents should get him a gift to cheer him up. A book would be nice, but I doubt the parents could teach him how to operate that either. A box of M-80s?
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That boy must feel awful. His parents should get him a gift to cheer him up. A book would be nice, but I doubt the parents could teach him how to operate that either. A box of M-80s?
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In hindsight, if he didn't bag his sister at two, he would have bagged her at 12. This is a house trailer in rural Kentucky we're talking about.....
That sounds bigoted.
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Such accidents as being routine in America on a daily basis, is a pause for thought.
" A few days ago a very old friend sent me an article about five shooting deaths in his small home town south of Seattle. I had not heard anything about it.

These local shootings and other violent deaths and injuries of every conceivable kind, from medical mistakes to huge industrial explosions, happen every day around America but rarely get any mention in the national Media.

Of course, these serial and mass killings are routine in America. They happen every day, but get no mention nationally. Bank robberies and bomb threats are routine. My daughter just sent us an article about a bank robbery with bomb threat in Marin County, across the Golden Gate from San Francisco, reported in the Marin Indep. Jour. Yesterday the San Diego Union-Tribune reported another San Diego P.D. police killing. A woman with a knife who may have stabbed some family member[s?] was found by the police when they arrived at the scene with a knife, she would not put it down, so they shot to kill, not to wound and disarm. SOP, everyday stuff. I've written about the killings in our very rich La Jolla neighborhood, including the shooting death of the former head of the Afghan National Bank across our back fence, just about 50 ft. from our house, a few years ago. Throughout my life, especially when young living in poor neighborhoods, I knew of many violent fights and deaths involving family members and neighbors. SOP...

Every day medical mistakes, overdoses, negligence, criminal negligence and even homicide kill between 300 and 600 Americans. [The studies at Harvard Med., etc., show the total per year to be between 100,000 and 200,000 even using only official medical records to estimate the causes of death, so many are missed by medical lies in the official data, non-reporting, etc.] I have written about the medically caused deaths and catastrophes suffered by friends and their families – and three catastrophes suffered by me, one of which I think was very dangerous to me, but after immense suffering I was released from the hospital to suffer chronic pain and psychic wounds from it.] This past week alone I learned of three more serious mistakes and negligence close to us – one life long friend, one husband of a friend of my wife, one sister of my wife. SOP.

Industrial accidents, even huge explosions, kill and maim many people every day on average. Road accidents kill and maim about a hundred Americans a day and almost all of us have lost friends and family members to them. Suicides kill about twice as many and homicides about half as many every day on average. Far more are maimed by suicides, shootings, knifing, beatings and so on.

All of this gets almost no national coverage. We all suffer greatly from such events throughout our lives."

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Old 05-03-2013, 12:20 PM   #84
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3 Different Cases Of Brothers Shooting Sisters In 3 Days

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By Sarah Rae Fruchtnicht, Thu, May 02, 2013

A 9-year-old girl in Washington is now recovering after being shot in the leg Wednesday by her brother. Two other girls fatally shot by their brothers this week in Kentucky and Alaska were not so lucky.

An 8-year-old boy in Mountain Village, Ala., killed his 5-year-old sister with a rifle on Monday. A 5-year-old boy in Cumberland County, Ky., fatally shot his 2-year-old sister on Tuesday with a youth rifle that was given to him as a gift.

The 9-year-old girl in Auburn, Wash., was taken to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle after she was shot by her 7-year-old brother Wednesday night. The boy allegedly found the .22 caliber rifle in another brother’s closet.

"He was playing with it," said Auburn Police Cmdr. Mike Hirman. "It was a loaded rifle, and it went off."

No charges have been filed yet in the case, but police are investigating whether the children were home alone at the time of the shooting. The girl is expected to make a full recovery.

The siblings in Alaska were home alone when the 5-year-old girl was shot and killed by her 8-year-old brother with a .22 caliber rifle on Monday afternoon. The boy had used the Ruger 10/22 to go hunting the day before.

“The 8-year-old had been left at the residence,” said Alaska State Trooper spokeswoman Megan Peters. “And in a span of about 15 minutes, (his) 5-year-old sister came in and it was in that short amount of time that this tragedy occurred.”

“It just goes to show you how much can go wrong in such a short amount of time,” she added. “It’s a very big tragedy for the family, of course.”

No charges have been filed in the case, but the Alaska Office of Children’s Services and the Bethel District Attorney’s officer were contacted, Peters said.

Another boy shot and killed his little sister, Caroline Starks, in Cumberland County, Ky., Tuesday afternoon. The 5-year-old boy was given the .22-caliber “youth” rifle as a gift. His parents claim the rifle was usually kept in a corner and no one realized a shell had been left in it.

"It's a Crickett," said Cumberland County Coroner Gary White. "It's a little rifle for a kid ... The little boy's used to shooting the little gun."

Their mother was home at the time of the shooting. Caroline’s death was considered accidental.

"Just one of those crazy accidents," White said.
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That sounds bigoted.
Can't be; some of his best friends are Kentuckians.
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