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View Poll Results: How would you classify yourself?
1 - Homer 7 2.44%
2 - Optimist 85 29.62%
3 - Balanced 116 40.42%
4 - Pessimist 67 23.34%
5 - Naysayer 8 2.79%
Generic Alternate Zresponse 4 1.39%
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:30 AM  
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Let's talk about "true fans"

Marcellus's thread was clearly a lot of attention whoring, but when it comes down to it, he has a point. The word "true fan" has become a catch-all for anyone who doesn't agree with a person on here about XXX player or XXX move that the Chiefs have made.

The issue I have with it is that it's increasingly become a straw man insult that doesn't even make sense. Discussion around here lately reminds me of discussions in D.C. where every issue has to be black and white and anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot. The reality is that there are opinions all over the spectrum and that nothing is ever black and white. I'd think there are at least five different categories of Chiefs fans these days:

1 - True "homers" who will cheer for the team and applaud every move they make unconditionally. These types almost don't even exist on ChiefsPlanet (though people like to act like they do). These are only a small portion of the Chiefs fanbase, and they look like this.

2 - Optimists who will always cheer for the Chiefs, but have a sense of realism about it. They probably cheered Cassel for the first few years, but reluctantly joined the SOC bandwagon last year when it was clear that there was just no hope in saving the team under Cassel.

3 - Fans who try to keep a balanced approach. They don't get too excited about drafting a RT at #1 or trading for Alex Smith, but they believe that it's likely the team will at least be improved this year if not dramatically so. Their approach is a "wait and see" reaction, though they'll be quick to criticize if things don't work out.

4 - Pessimists who are skeptical that the Chiefs are going to be competitive any time soon, but who do try and give the team some benefit of the doubt under the new leadership. They're probably not happy about Alex Smith being our QB, but are grudgingly willing to see what he can do.

5 - Total naysayers who have had it with the team for the past 40 years and will refuse to be optimistic until the Chiefs find some real success (playoff wins at a minimum, and Super Bowl contention ideally). They believe that the front office should be constantly scrutinized given that their predecessors were given a long leash and screwed it all up.

Anyway, I thought it would be interesting to see where people would put themselves on the spectrum. It seems like most threads these days are battles between 5's and 1's, but I'd bet that those types are actually pretty rare around here. My dream would be that we can one day have discussions that are dominated by 2's, 3's, and 4's, but who knows if that can ever happen until the Chiefs start showing success.

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Old 05-05-2013, 09:31 PM   #181
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:34 PM   #182
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:36 PM   #183
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seriously

and I don't even mean this to be insulting, it is just something I have to say

I have been a part of a lot of boards over the years and probably have made a lifetime 500,000 posts on various message boards running into all sorts of "characters" over the years.

ROR, you are the worst poster I have ever come across. You add nothing to anything, you aren't funny, your post style is terrible and you're just a miserable human being.

and I truly mean all of that
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:38 PM   #184
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:50 PM   #185
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I voted pessimist, but I think I should have been optimist if most of the posters think they are balanced. That being said, I don't blame anyone for the negative attitude; there simply hasn't been much to be positive about lately. Watch Alex Smith throw a few TD's against some shitty defenses and there'll be members of this board trying to start an MVP campaign.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:25 PM   #186
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and I don't even mean this to be insulting, it is just something I have to say

I have been a part of a lot of boards over the years and probably have made a lifetime 500,000 posts on various message boards running into all sorts of "characters" over the years.

ROR, you are the worst poster I have ever come across. You add nothing to anything, you aren't funny, your post style is terrible and you're just a miserable human being.

and I truly mean all of that
Okay seriously. I pretty much pass over everything you ever post(except when someone is tearing you a new asshole)because it reads like an eight grade douchwaffle getting all excited over his new Mongoose.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:28 PM   #187
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Okay seriously. I pretty much pass over everything you ever post(except when someone is tearing you a new asshole)because it reads like an eight grade douchwaffle getting all excited over his new Mongoose.
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He's kind of right, though. I honestly can't think of anything of value you typically bring to a thread.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:31 PM   #188
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and I don't even mean this to be insulting, it is just something I have to say

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ROR, you are the worst poster I have ever come across. You add nothing to anything, you aren't funny, your post style is terrible and you're just a miserable human being.

and I truly mean all of that
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:48 PM   #189
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He's kind of right, though. I honestly can't think of anything of value you typically bring to a thread.
I guess it's all in how you define "value". The Chiefs have given me pretty much jack and shit for far too long and my patience has worn thin. Just swapping the old regime for a new one doesn't mean much to me when said regime repeats the exact same act in year one as its predecessor. It's becoming harder and more difficult to take this franchise seriously and by extension to have or even want to share legitimate football takes. Perhaps in the end, the Dorseid will end the bad joke without a punchline that the Chiefs have become, I couldn't say. Until then, the social enigma that IS Chiefs Planet is far more entertaining than the Chiefs themselves, and I don't get too worked up or worried about what other posters may like or dislike about me.
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Old 05-06-2013, 02:19 AM   #191
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I guess it's all in how you define "value". The Chiefs have given me pretty much jack and shit for far too long and my patience has worn thin. Just swapping the old regime for a new one doesn't mean much to me when said regime repeats the exact same act in year one as its predecessor. It's becoming harder and more difficult to take this franchise seriously and by extension to have or even want to share legitimate football takes. Perhaps in the end, the Dorseid will end the bad joke without a punchline that the Chiefs have become, I couldn't say. Until then, the social enigma that IS Chiefs Planet is far more entertaining than the Chiefs themselves, and I don't get too worked up or worried about what other posters may like or dislike about me.
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If your patience has worn that thin you might want to find another team to be a fan of. What is the point of being a "fan" of a team that you hate so much? It makes no sense. I seriously fail to see why so many of you haters stick around.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:10 AM   #192
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If your patience has worn that thin you might want to find another team to be a fan of. What is the point of being a "fan" of a team that you hate so much? It makes no sense. I seriously fail to see why so many of you haters stick around.
They are seeking validation. They want others to feel the exact same way that they do because if they do then they are justified and normal.

Kinda creepy actually.
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:34 AM   #193
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They are seeking validation. They want others to feel the exact same way that they do because if they do then they are justified and normal.

Kinda creepy actually.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:18 AM   #194
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:24 AM   #195
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They are seeking validation. They want others to feel the exact same way that they do because if they do then they are justified and normal.

Kinda creepy actually.
I think this is a really good analysis. It happened to me with the Royals. I was a fan that just started getting mad at the team, and before long, I was turning on optimistic fans, a d wanting the team to fail, just so the optimistic fans would look bad, and maybe join me. I'm over that now, however.
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