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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-06-2013, 08:02 AM   #46
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I thoroughly get your point. But we had no leverage whatsoever because there were other teams that wanted AS just as bad so we did and we had to drop our pants even further. Especially since we had no legit NFL QB on the roster and the 9ers knew it and bent us over. Dorsey would have done the same if we were in their shoes. Fallout is on ***** not Dorsey/Reid for hanging his hat on Cassel and leaving us with sh** at QB plain and simple.
complete bullshit

pioli didn't make this stupid trade

Dorsey did...it's a ****ing embarrassment of a trade

a smart team with a smart front office donkey punched us
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:02 AM   #47
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Why are we giving up 2 picks for him?
Because we were furiously working to outbid several other teams.

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actually it begs the question of why you'd trade 2 seconds for someone who isn't 'the guy'...

the more you think about it, the more painfully ****ing stupid it is
A combination of business and football acumen.

The Chiefs need to be competitive, and you're not getting that with Carson Palmer, Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, Geno Smith, or Matt Barkley. You're getting it from Alex Smith.

Build a team around him for a year, then see what you can do to get The Guy.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:05 AM   #48
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we placed a value on 8-8


think about that...we called up the 49ers and said our ambitions were to go 8-8 and we'd pay anything to do it....not the playoffs, 8-8

can you imagine the look on Baalke's face when Dorsey said, "Clark wants us to be 8-8, take as many draft picks as you want"..
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:05 AM   #49
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They will have a ton of good scraps for us to pick up with all their up and coming young players.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:06 AM   #50
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I thoroughly get your point. But we had no leverage whatsoever because there were other teams that wanted AS just as bad so we did and we had to drop our pants even further. Especially since we had no legit NFL QB on the roster and the 9ers knew it and bent us over. Dorsey would have done the same if we were in their shoes. Fallout is on ***** not Dorsey/Reid for hanging his hat on Cassel and leaving us with sh** at QB plain and simple.
Ya Bull Shit.

We were hanging onto the #1 pick of the draft and for all SF knew we could take Geno Smith or another QB if Dorsey and Reid acted as if that is the direction they wanted to go. From all reports not many teams were that interested in Alex Smith and that a 3rd round pick would have got the deal done.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:06 AM   #51
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Because we were furiously working to outbid several other teams.



A combination of business and football acumen.

The Chiefs need to be competitive, and you're not getting that with Carson Palmer, Kevin Kolb, Matt Flynn, Geno Smith, or Matt Barkley. You're getting it from Alex Smith.

Build a team around him for a year, then see what you can do to get The Guy.
wrong...ass backwards...proven failure

the Chiefs need a franchise QB....going 8-8 at the expense of 2 seconds not only robs you of precious draft picks, but reduces the chances that you're in a postion to draft "the guy"...
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:07 AM   #52
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Ya Bull Shit.

We were hanging onto the #1 pick of the draft and for all SF knew we could take Geno Smith or another QB if Dorsey and Reid acted as if that is the direction they wanted to go. From all reports not many teams were that interested in Alex Smith and that a 3rd round pick would have got the deal done.
Did you watch the draft? 49ers knew this class sucked.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:09 AM   #53
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complete bullshit

***** didn't make this stupid trade

Dorsey did...it's a ****ing embarrassment of a trade

a smart team with a smart front office donkey punched us

What would you have done different that gave us a better chance to win ?
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:09 AM   #54
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Did you watch the draft? 49ers knew this class sucked.
Geno Smith did well at the combine. Doesn't matter there are other quarterbacks the Chiefs could have "acted" as if they were interested in.
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What would you have done different that gave us a better chance to win ?
you mean a chance to go 8-8?

is it not clear that I don't give a shit about going 8-8?
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:10 AM   #57
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8-8 does not mean good QB play.
Why is it based on record vs. QB play? This team can go 8-8 with any QB other than Cassel. Something fishy about this.

6 game improvement to 8-8 is worth a second round pick?
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8-8 does not mean good QB play.
Why is it based on record vs. QB play? This team can go 8-8 with any QB other than Cassel. Something fishy about this.

6 game improvement to 8-8 is worth a second round pick?
Stop praising for a moment and consider 2 second round picks for that.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:14 AM   #59
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Stop praising for a moment and consider 2 second round picks for that.
2 second round picks for that?
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