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Old 05-05-2013, 05:03 PM  
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Bengahzi ? Wh Knew, Who lied, who turned a blind eye and deaf ears ?

Bengahzi, we all knew it was a cover up, millions of Americans was blind and deaf, yet still voted for a POTUS and staff that lied and covered it up.

Do you feel better about the POTUS now since this happened? ( as in your own twisted political view , you feel he was the right choice as POTUS )

Same, as in who cares?

Worst ?

So where do you stand about the current staff and the way Bengahzi was handled now ?
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:56 PM   #76
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Sure, in the same sense Nixon was guilty of damage control.
Well, Nixon was guilty of damage control of something he was aware of beforehand. You're saying Benghazi was something Obama had a hand in planning or that he knew about it beforehand?
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:56 PM   #77
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That was the warning Bush received prior to 9/11. I assume you were this out of your mind at that time?
Really poor comparison.

No one blames Hillary or her staff for the attack on the embassy.
It was the lack of action during and the lying about it afterwards, even about the cause of the attack.

Now if Bush had done something like not scrambled F-16's in order to avoid any other planes going into buildings and responded with "What difference would it have made; the damage was already done" I'm sure you'd have cut him the same slack, right?
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Old 05-07-2013, 06:59 PM   #78
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You think he wanted them to die or merely that he said things afterward to deflect criticism?
No, of course not; sounds like he really had no interest in being involved.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:13 PM   #79
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Really poor comparison.

No one blames Hillary or her staff for the attack on the embassy.
It was the lack of action during and the lying about it afterwards, even about the cause of the attack.

Now if Bush had done something like not scrambled F-16's in order to avoid any other planes going into buildings and responded with "What difference would it have made; the damage was already done" I'm sure you'd have cut him the same slack, right?
This proves my point in that you're really in a minority and this actually insignificant, politically speaking. Yeah, a few loud wingers are in a froth about it, everyone else knows a bunch of crazy Muslims attacked an embassy. Romney tried to make political hay with it and the voters didn't care, Hillary's opponent will try again in 2016 and it will fail again. It is simply not the big deal you nutters have tried to make it out to be.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:14 PM   #80
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:24 PM   #81
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This proves my point in that you're really in a minority and this actually insignificant, politically speaking. Yeah, a few loud wingers are in a froth about it, everyone else knows a bunch of crazy Muslims attacked an embassy. Romney tried to make political hay with it and the voters didn't care, Hillary's opponent will try again in 2016 and it will fail again. It is simply not the big deal you nutters have tried to make it out to be.
And everyone knows that it was grossly mishandled and only "left wingers" are trying to dismiss it. Mishandled flat out lying to cover it up. This deal sucks flat out. If this was Bush you would be going batshit crazy. I am not a left or right winger~
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:29 PM   #82
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:30 PM   #83
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And everyone knows that it was grossly mishandled and only "left wingers" are trying to dismiss it. Mishandled flat out lying to cover it up. This deal sucks flat out. If this was Bush you would be going batshit crazy. I am not a left or right winger~
I don't necessarily think it was handled well, but the rest of country has moved on.
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:44 PM   #84
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I don't necessarily think it was handled well, but the rest of country has moved on.
That has to be one of the biggest understatments of alltime. If you are correct that most of the country has move on from a disgraceful moment like this. One where nobody has been held accountable and our government knowingly lied to cover it up it is very sad~
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Old 05-07-2013, 07:45 PM   #85
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Well, Nixon was guilty of damage control of something he was aware of beforehand. You're saying Benghazi was something Obama had a hand in planning or that he knew about it beforehand?
Your accusation Nixon knew beforehand is your opinion, not fact.

And it has nothing to do with the reason he resigned, which was being involved with covering it up.

In Nixon's case it was covering up a political break in for political gain.

If this case is true, it's Hillary and Obama were covering up:

Failed attention to repeated requests from their own Ambassador for more security.
Failed response to an attack on our embassy which results in 4 Americans killed.
Purposely hiding the fact our own agencies recognized the attack as terrorism by changing the message because a presidential election was 7 weeks away.

It will be interesting to see what comes out in testimony tomorrow and how the administration responds.
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:18 PM   #86
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Should be interesting tomorrow. Actually nothing will happen to blow this open until a committee asks for Hillary to come back. And they go higher up the chain on the executive side getting closer to Obama. Then shit will hit the fan. Only when the media starts the everyday reporting like they did in Watergate will this grow to something substantial. Even then...one wonders if the left gives a damn. It wont change the rights opinion on Obama. All it could do is kill Hillarys opportunity to be elected and leave a small stain on Obama. Obamas hard core base has no interest in how dirty he is or how dirty his people are.
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Old 05-07-2013, 09:04 PM   #87
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Vast majority of people don't give a flying **** about this issue.

Hell, don't forget Romney even tried to capitalize on it and failed. I know many of you 'wingers are obsessed with this and they still talk about it on Fox to try and keep you riled up about it, but most voters realize that many of the people in that region are nuts and thus, don't really care about this. I know that frustrates you 'wingers, but that's just the way it is.
I agree. And I will tell you why this whole thing doesn't reasonate with me and 95% of the public. It is because while it is sad and tragic that these 4 Americans lost their life but they lost their life in a war zone and people realize in war there is going to be causalities. Heck we kill innocent civilians every day. Their lives are no more important than the US soldiers that die every in combat all over the world.

I will add that people would care if Obama\Hillary were the ones that pulled the trigger but since they had really very little to do with this then people just aren't seeing what the big deal is. Especially since there is 2 people murdered every hour on every day in this country.
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I agree. And I will tell you why this whole thing doesn't reasonate with me and 95% of the public. It is because while it is sad and tragic that these 4 Americans lost their life but they lost their life in a war zone and people realize in war there is going to be causalities. Heck we kill innocent civilians every day. Their lives are no more important than the US soldiers that die every in combat all over the world.

I will add that people would care if Obama\Hillary were the ones that pulled the trigger but since they had really very little to do with this then people just aren't seeing what the big deal is. Especially since there is 2 people murdered every hour on every day in this country.
People care - you just don't hear about it because the left media won't report that. The thought process is that they can make people believe that no one cares and therefore stop caring as well.

As far as Obama and Hilliary's involvement, that statement is just asinine. If you walk up on someone being beaten and are the only one around with a cell phone and the person is begging you for help, yet you don't so much as call the cops, I sure as hell would put some accountability on you. Heck, I do believe New York even proposed laws at one time against this exact behavior.
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Old 05-08-2013, 06:11 AM   #89
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We know you're tying to keep Bengazi alive for when Hillary runs, but guess what, no one is going to give a **** about it then either. A bunch of people in the middle east are insane... get it? They went nuts and blew up a ****in embassy. Same shit different day!

Trying to pin it on anyone in particular is getting you nowhere and will continue to get you nowhere.

You're just angry, bitter, paranoid, aholes and trying to find another issue to bitch about, like usual of course.
Same shit different day?

So our Ambassadors are murdered every day?

Well, I had no idea. Thanks for this history lesson.

No big deal.
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Most people have moved on, I guess you could say.
Like the left moved on from Bush?
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