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Old 05-08-2013, 12:32 PM  
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PFF Ranks top 101 players of 2012 and No Jamaal Charles

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Just wow.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:53 PM   #16
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Pearson ask him if they factor in how many guys Jamaal ran away from in their broken tackles stat, the guy said no.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:54 PM   #17
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So they will penalize him for "good" O-line play, but won't mention the fact that he had to face 8 man boxes the entire season because of the worst passing offense in the league? Got it.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:55 PM   #18
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i saw a kicker on their with no JC......seems legit
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:55 PM   #19
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Didn't break enough tackles and didn't work enough? Funny, last time I accept a PFF evaluation from anyone. Anyone else who uses this shit should be lynched.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:55 PM   #20
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PFF sent out some tweets defending their ranking. You be the judge:
This is why sometimes, statistical analysis doesn't work, at least for football. You'd actually have to watch him run to see that sometimes, Charles does it on his own, and not because no one got near him.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:56 PM   #21
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Just think how far he'll fall after running behind 2 LT's and 3 fullbacks.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:56 PM   #22
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A reasonable argument can be made for their logic. It's why we always roll our eyes about Emmitt Smith being listed in the top ranks of running backs, or why Richmond Webb made the pro bowl every year because Marino never got sacked. It's reasonable to say, "what did this guy make on his own versus what was handed to him".

However, part of the reason that Jamaal got so many yards is because the guy is really, really fast and runs to the right place. Some of those long runs may have looked easy, but they looked easy because Jamaal Charles was the ball carrier. Put Doug Martin in there and it's not going to be as long a run. I've read that their grading includes things like broken tackles and yards after contact, but does it include something like "so freaking fast that contact and tackles could not be initiated"?

Nonetheless, their general concept is reasonable.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:58 PM   #23
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When you have the vision Jamaal Charles has, you aren't going to NEED to break a lot of tackles.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:01 PM   #24
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Jamals not in PFF's top 101 of 2012?!?!??!!NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Old 05-08-2013, 01:02 PM   #25
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PFF is a ****ing joke. Not because their analysis is a joke, but because of the way people treat is as quantified, absolute, infallible truth instead of what it is: analysis and opinion.

Case in point.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:04 PM   #26
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A reasonable argument can be made for their logic. It's why we always roll our eyes about Emmitt Smith being listed in the top ranks of running backs, or why Richmond Webb made the pro bowl every year because Marino never got sacked. It's reasonable to say, "what did this guy make on his own versus what was handed to him".

However, part of the reason that Jamaal got so many yards is because the guy is really, really fast and runs to the right place. Some of those long runs may have looked easy, but they looked easy because Jamaal Charles was the ball carrier. Put Doug Martin in there and it's not going to be as long a run. I've read that their grading includes things like broken tackles and yards after contact, but does it include something like "so freaking fast that contact and tackles could not be initiated"?

Nonetheless, their general concept is reasonable.
But again, its looking at stats and drawing a conclusion of what happened. There were many times defenders were in position to make a play, but took bad angles, or misjudged Charles speed to a spot. The Chiefs Oline did a fine job run blocking, but they didn't block out the sun. It's right that Charles made long runs that for other backs would've been losses. That isn't a stat on a piece of paper that they can draw a conclusion from. It just comes from watching him play.
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Yeeeaaahhhh that's it. The blocking is phenomenal for JC.

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Old 05-08-2013, 01:06 PM   #28
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Andy Reid's dramatic overhaul of the O-line suggests he doesn't see things the same way as PFF.
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:08 PM   #29
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Old 05-08-2013, 01:08 PM   #30
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PFF is a stat site. Doesn't mean that anyone there actually knows anything...though some would lead you to believe that they are the be-all, end-all when it comes to football knowledge. Not having Charles on that list shows one of two things. Either they're incompetent, or they completely forgot about our team...which is possible.
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