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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:09 AM   #1141
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Wrong. Scott ***** was the exectutive of the ****ing decade. That's 10 years of him being an alleged bad ass and he ****ed it up right off the bat. Andy isn't coming off his best years so he needs to earn the benefit of the doubt with this fan base, although their are dumbasses that will just use he old "he does this shit for a living line".
True, but you are comparing apples to shit oranges. Scooter didn't come here under the same role. Andy is. Big difference. Scooter peter principled himself to the NFL Network desk.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:14 AM   #1142
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True, but you are comparing apples to shit oranges. Scooter didn't come here under the same role. Andy is. Big difference. Scooter peter principled himself to the NFL Network desk.
Yeah I don't think that comparison applies to Reid, but it could definetly apply to Dorsey.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:14 AM   #1143
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True, but you are comparing apples to shit oranges. Scooter didn't come here under the same role. Andy is. Big difference. Scooter peter principled himself to the NFL Network desk.
Pretty damn close. Let's not pretend like Reid isn't the one calling the shots on who is on the team. I highly doubt Reid had any less to do with Alex Smith than Pioli did with Cassell.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:17 AM   #1144
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We will have to see i suppose. I dont think that your defense is going to be nearly as bad as some do. But thats because I really respect the jets system that your new d coordinator comes from, i also have a lot of respect for Hali, and Houston......
Exactly. Lots of question marks with all the changes. My point has always been if Reid and Alex are who they have been it's not going to work. Reid is going to have to change.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:18 AM   #1145
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Yes, that run was all about Alex Smith, wasn't it?

The 49ers had the best defense in football and the best overall roster (:insert right 53 joke here: ). I'm skeptical the Chiefs will put similar resources in place for Smith this year or next.

I hope I'm wrong about that, but I don't think I am. If the Chiefs manage to pull together a top 5 defense this year, the Chiefs COULD make a run. But it wouldn't be about Alex Smith at that point.
He was the QB when they went to the NFCC game, and he brought them back to tie the game and go into OT. He was 6-2 in the first half of the season last year before he was hurt, and actually won more regular season games last year than Keapernak did. There is no reason to think he wouldn't have taken them deep in the playoffs or to the SB except butthurt because he isn't the QB you want.

It is sad how so many of you let emotions overtake logic.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:20 AM   #1146
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We've seen the stupid thing about a thousand times too many. it doesn't prove shit except to simpletons.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:20 AM   #1147
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Wrong. Scott ***** was the exectutive of the ****ing decade. That's 10 years of him being an alleged bad ass and he ****ed it up right off the bat. Andy isn't coming off his best years so he needs to earn the benefit of the doubt with this fan base, although their are dumbasses that will just use he old "he does this shit for a living line".
Pioli wasn't a GM in NE. He was a fraud like every other coach/front office person to get their own gig except Dimitroff. He mooched off of Belichiks work and won awards.

Meanwhile Reid ran the Eagles team. He was the head coach, not some assistant like Pioli.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:20 AM   #1148
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Yeah I don't think that comparison applies to Reid, but it could definetly apply to Dorsey.
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Absolutely.

The coaching comparison would be Reid to that buffoon Haley and I like this hire a weee bit better to say the least.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:24 AM   #1149
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Pretty damn close. Let's not pretend like Reid isn't the one calling the shots on who is on the team. I highly doubt Reid had any less to do with Alex Smith than ***** did with Cassell.
You are slipping- you called him Alex-lol

I am not going through every post but if there was a Better option than Alex Bad Ass Smith- you must know something the entire Chiefs organization doesn't know.

You are going to look pretty dumb calling everyone Homo's for rooting for the guy when he has a great year.

I have never seen any team sink as low as the Chiefs did last year. I am happy with the moves they made and will wait to see if they pan out before posting pages and pages of negative bullshit based on results from the past.

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:25 AM   #1150
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:26 AM   #1151
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"Hatred" and "subjective analysis" are not the same thing.

I think you might have taken a wrong turn on your way to rainbowsandunicornsplanet.
This.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:28 AM   #1152
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"subjective analysis" I should make a thread on all the names Alex Smith has been called on here so far- and he has not even thrown a pass-lol

or how about calling every draft pick a bust and they havnt signed their contracts yet?

Last year was a nightmare and for Clark to turn it around like he has is amazing. There is a fine line between voicing a legit opinion based on performance and just being a negative dick. Unfortunately negativity rules this place and anyone excited about this team is a "true fan" now.
You are ****ing excited about them signing another in a long line of recycled QB failures from another team? The 4th one from the 9ers?
You are excited about a guy that has already shown his ceiling, and proven it isn't high enough?


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***** wasn't a GM in NE. He was a fraud like every other coach/front office person to get their own gig except Dimitroff. He mooched off of Belichiks work and won awards.

Meanwhile Reid ran the Eagles team. He was the head coach, not some assistant like *****.
He hasn't done shit lately and sure hasn't done shit in KC. Until he does so there is no reason to give him a free pass when he chooses to trade a 1st for a QB that has shown to be successful only when asked to just not **** it up.
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I don't think many here think Alex is gonna come in and shit the bed...in fact, I think even the guys (like myself) that don't like the trade acknowledge that AS will come in and vastly improve this team.

I think the heart of the disagreements are when we talk about how far this team can go with him at QB. That's talking about how he will perform against the top defenses, given his physical limitations.

That's where I think the move pisses people off.

We, again, traded for a guy that a true contender deemed "not good enough to win it all with"

I think this is a classic alpha male type move where Andy Reid genuinely thinks he can get Alex Myth to play at a higher level than Jim Harbaugh did and hopefully, he is right.

Truth be told, after all the bitching about these things, I'm just as excited as I would have been last year if we had re-signed Kyle Orton...not much more.

Post of the thread right here.


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