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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-09-2013, 11:19 AM   #1171
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"Out there" as in available in free agency? Probably none, unless something completely unexpected and unlikely happens.

"Out there" as in the future? I think there are some guys, even in this "bad" QB draft, who have the tools to be elite QBs. Same thing with next year's draft, which is regarded more highly.

But you can't find an elite or near-elite (top 15 in league) QB without trying, and the price paid for Alex Smith severely limits the ability to try not only in this draft but also in the future.

That's my issue with the price.

If they'd snagged Alex Smith for a 3rd and a 4th or even two thirds, I wouldn't have a single problem with it.
This.

I still would have taken Geno Smith with 1.1 just for the chance he turns out to be a good one. Not taking a chance and throwing away draft picks to be stuck with a mediocre quarterback sucks balls. We have done that so many times already. I don't know if Geno Smith is going be any good or not but it would have been fun to watch him as a Chief to find out. Next year still have the opportunity to draft another QB with a top one or two rounder and create job competition and trade bate for more picks.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:10 PM   #1172
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:11 PM   #1173
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:13 PM   #1174
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This.

I still would have taken Geno Smith with 1.1 just for the chance he turns out to be a good one. Not taking a chance and throwing away draft picks to be stuck with a mediocre quarterback sucks balls. We have done that so many times already. I don't know if Geno Smith is going be any good or not but it would have been fun to watch him as a Chief to find out. Next year still have the opportunity to draft another QB with a top one or two rounder and create job competition and trade bate for more picks.
Alex Smith will have to fail horribly for us to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds next year.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:14 PM   #1175
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:16 PM   #1176
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Wrong. Scott ***** was the exectutive of the ****ing decade. That's 10 years of him being an alleged bad ass and he ****ed it up right off the bat. Andy isn't coming off his best years so he needs to earn the benefit of the doubt with this fan base, although their are dumbasses that will just use he old "he does this shit for a living line".
Let's not forget Reid's staggering upward trend that kept him FIRMLY in control over in Philly!

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Old 05-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #1177
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Yeah I don't think that comparison applies to Reid, but it could definetly apply to Dorsey.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:20 PM   #1178
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If he doesnt get the concusion- he starts all year. And being the 4th qb from the 9ers has Nothing to do with This signing. You are lumping Every QB failure in Chiefs history on Smith and that is Not his problem. People are bitching and bitching- but what was the solution?? Alex was a great signing. Considering our draft history in the second round-lol It was a steal.

If you look at all the moves- they are building a Very specific type of team- and Alex will be perfect for it (they hope

Yes I am very excited that we at least have a QB that gives us a chance to win.
The solution is for the team to try something different, that may actually succeed instead of just being a lesser degree of failure.

I am not blaming anything on a man that hasn't taken a snap, but that doesn't change who he is, and what he represents in the direction.

Yeah I know, the QBs in this draft all sucked, but I would rather they had tried and failed, than not to try at all.

Sorry, they have taken me from the most extreme Kool-Aid chugging homer, to a man that is getting more pissed by the day, that they keep doing this. I started following this team at 19, and may very well not live long enough for them to draft their own quarterback, let alone win a ****ing playoff game.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:21 PM   #1179
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Yeah, not exactly like Vermeil coming in off a SB win.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:37 PM   #1180
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Alex Smith will have to fail horribly for us to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds next year.
him ending up in a full body cast is pretty likely considering how injury prone he is.
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Yeah, not exactly like Vermeil coming in off a SB win.
Yep. Vermeil, after being retired for a year, costing the Chiefs a second rounder, and the consensus was Martz was the reason the Rams won the SB. I'm more excited by the Reid hiring.
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Alex Smith will have to fail horribly for us to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds next year.
As I've stated before and will state again and again: If you didn't want Geno or Barkley, you sure as all hell don't want any part of next years ****ball fiesta of college QB's BARRING a MAJOR uptrend from those fools. We shall see.
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Yep. Vermeil, after being retired for a year, costing the Chiefs a second rounder, and the consensus was Martz was the reason the Rams won the SB. I'm more excited by the Reid hiring.
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:50 PM   #1185
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Yep. Vermeil, after being retired for a year, costing the Chiefs a second rounder, and the consensus was Martz was the reason the Rams won the SB. I'm more excited by the Reid hiring.
Yeah, as it turned out the consenus was pretty much wrong on that one.
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