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Old 05-13-2013, 11:32 AM  
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Seal Team 6 kicks ass again. They appreared and then they were gone.

Public information now........... Powerful story.

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Rescue of an American aid worker helping the poor in the Somalia region. American home safely. 9 dead Somali bandits. All Seal Team 6 members unharmed.

Remember on the way into the State of the Union Obama told DOD Chief Panneta good job tonight and no one knew why. This is why.


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Tonight, for the first time, we have the story of the rescue of Jessica Buchanan. It is the tale of a secret mission by SEAL Team Six that few people have heard about until now. On a January night in 2012, members of SEAL Team Six jumped from a plane into the skies of Somalia. Jessica Buchanan was being held hostage and the SEALs were descending just in time. Buchanan was a humanitarian aid worker who had come to help children in one of the most dangerous places on Earth. Hers was an ordeal that ended in a flash of violence. but had begun 93 days earlier when her car was stopped by bandits in a place she calls hell................
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:59 PM   #16
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I agree to send a message about screwing with Americans, but there is some personal responsibility too, in that if you really want to help these people, bring a gun.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:59 PM   #17
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Just "because they are a citizen of the USA?" Seriously?

No, the problem is we need to stop interfering in the internal, and/or conflicts of other countries.
As soon as we do that, we make a new enemy. This would prevent such ordeals, risk less lives and be cheaper.

We must reduce our footprints on the world.
Sorry honey , but thats just not right. The world is full of evil people and lots of them hide behind a bullshit religious cause. I have family that has worked in Afghanistan,Pakistan, Africa , and several other countries I should not mention. Those people in some of those countries are just completely brain dead, all they know is violence, Kill, Kill ,Kill.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:03 PM   #18
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That's true. Sad as it sounds, she probably has no business being there. I suppose if you're part of a broader (US-supported) aid mission then we should do what we can to rescue kidnapped.



But if she's just going there on her own, gets taken.....there's no justification for risking many lives to go get her. It'll only lead to more risk taking by other Americans.
Pretend she was a Catholic nun and you can get all excited.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:26 PM   #19
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Sorry honey , but thats just not right. The world is full of evil people and lots of them hide behind a bullshit religious cause. I have family that has worked in Afghanistan,Pakistan, Africa , and several other countries I should not mention. Those people in some of those countries are just completely brain dead, all they know is violence, Kill, Kill ,Kill.
Another good reason to stay out of their countries. They've been there for millenia doing that.
We're not going to change them. Evil has always existed....it's not up to us to change the world using our military. We use it when our borders need to be defended.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:39 PM   #20
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I wouldn't doubt if the Seals do this kind of thing more then the public will ever know in these shit countries and it just doesn't get reported.

The Seals want to be as low key as possible anyway.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:42 PM   #21
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It's great the seals jumped in and watered the lawn with the innards of those scum.....BUT...

This lady is pretty much an example of the real life horror film "Oh, my sorority sisters are dead, I'd better go take a shower".

There are a lot of people in this world that need help. You can't stick your pecker into a bee hive and then act surprised if you get a stinger in your helmet.
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Old 05-13-2013, 06:52 PM   #22
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I'd rather we be the world's police force, than for the world to have no police force. Isolationism almost kept us out of World War II completely - that would have been a monumental disaster, and the world is much more complex, interconnected, and volatile now.

And SEAL Team Six are superhuman.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:51 PM   #23
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Another good reason to stay out of their countries. They've been there for millenia doing that.
We're not going to change them. Evil has always existed....it's not up to us to change the world using our military. We use it when our borders need to be defended.
No one is thinking we are going to change Somalia by using Seal Team 6 to rescue a hostage. We are not in Somalia to nation build.

But, I bet they will think twice about kidnapping an American now. The Somalia pirates haven't tried to take an American vessel since we deployed Seal Team 6. Haven't taken an American hostage since.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:17 PM   #24
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:17 PM   #25
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[quote=BigRedChief;9679738]No one is thinking we are going to change Somalia by using Seal Team 6 to rescue a hostage. We are not in Somalia to nation build.

Well, that's not what I meant which was obvious. I am referring earlier interferences there.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:23 PM   #27
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I'd rather we be the world's police force, than for the world to have no police force. Isolationism almost kept us out of World War II completely - that would have been a monumental disaster, and the world is much more complex, interconnected, and volatile now.
It's not isolationism to stay out of the internal affairs of other countries. WWII does not apply since we were attacked directly. Apples and oranges. Plus, one could argue, that our helping in WWI lead to factors creating WWII. One could argue, as some have, that if we were not in WWII, that Germany would have gone all the way to Russia who would have kicked their butts, since the Russians had them pretty much defeated in WWII before we got there. Those two tyrants would have knocked each other out.

Why does the world need a police force anyway? That just calls for more central govt control over the world—a far worse scenario.
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It's not isolationism to stay out of the internal affairs of other countries.
How was rescuing a hostage interfering in the affairs of another country?
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I wouldn't doubt if the Seals do this kind of thing more then the public will ever know in these shit countries and it just doesn't get reported.

The Seals want to be as low key as possible anyway.
This is actually true, according to a friend of mine who was a former Seal.
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How was rescuing a hostage interfering in the affairs of another country?
Don't you remember when US officials wanted a new govt in Somalia? We put troops there. To Clinton's credit, he pulled out. Under Bush Jr's WoT, back in again.
Still, the term "isolationist" is just another political boogie man such as "racist", "anti-Semitic," and "homophobic." They're coined to stop critical thought.

The Bush-Clinton Caper in Somalia

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The US is again blundering into ancient clan and tribal conflicts, using foreign troops and local mercenaries to defend a puppet regime without any popular support. US-Ethiopian intervention in Somalia is certain to re-ignite the murderous clan rivalries that brought it to the current state of anarchy.
The CIA calls such retaliation —> B-L-O-W-B-A-C-K!!!
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