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Old 05-10-2013, 10:02 AM  
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IRS Admits it Targeted Conservative Groups

The complaints by conservatives that they were being singled out for scrutiny by the IRS turns out to be true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...y.html?hpid=z1
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:35 PM   #136
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Every one of the 'targeted' groups also got approved. They might have been inappropriately given more scrutiny, but in the end, they still got approved.
True. I would like to know if liberal groups were given a free pass while conservative groups weren't. If that was the case then heads need to roll.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:42 PM   #137
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So Obama planned the Benghazi attack, killed Americans and then attempted to cover it up?
For ****s sake...really Dirk
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:54 PM   #138
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For ****s sake...really Dirk
I am just curious what makes this worse or anything like Watergate?

Nixon and his people planned, executed, and then proceeded to cover up their crimes.
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Old 05-14-2013, 06:57 PM   #139
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I am just curious what makes this worse or anything like Watergate?

Obama and his people planned, executed, and then proceeded to lie & cover up their incompetency with some stupid ****ing video.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:00 PM   #140
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Every one of the 'targeted' groups also got approved. They might have been inappropriately given more scrutiny, but in the end, they still got approved.
Its ok to target groups for political reasons as long as you approve them is what you're saying. Ridicilous.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:01 PM   #141
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Its ok to target groups for political reasons as long as you approve them is what you're saying. Ridicilous.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:02 PM   #142
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Incompetence is a crime now? Holy shit...better get some busses to DC on the double.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:03 PM   #143
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So no crime?
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #144
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Oh wait, this is the IRS thread.

What happened here is terrible, shouldn't have happened and anyone directly involved should loose their jobs. That said, is it really that surprising that the IRS takes a special look at groups that name themselves after a violent uprising against the payment of taxes?

To frame it another way, the officer that pulls over the VW bus with weed stickers on the back shouldn't have misled the driver into letting him search the car...but seriously what did that guy expect when he put it onto his window in the first place?
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:16 PM   #145
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So no crime?
Are cover up's & out & out lies by a President a crime?
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:20 PM   #146
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Its ok to target groups for political reasons as long as you approve them is what you're saying. Ridicilous.
No, I didn't say that. I said they were 'inappropriately' given more scrutiny. But perhaps the level of outrage should have some relationship to the harm done. If they were actually rejected, I think that would justify a lot more outrage.

The 'funny' thing is that NONE of these political social welfare groups should qualify. They don't have a political purpose? Yeah, right.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:24 PM   #147
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Are cover up's & out & out lies by a President a crime?
IMO only if he commits a crime then tries to cover it up or lie under oath\police.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:25 PM   #148
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I am just curious what makes this worse or anything like Watergate?

Nixon and his people planned, executed, and then proceeded to cover up their crimes.
Nixon planned it? Link?
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:34 PM   #149
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No, I didn't say that. I said they were 'inappropriately' given more scrutiny. But perhaps the level of outrage should have some relationship to the harm done. If they were actually rejected, I think that would justify a lot more outrage.

The 'funny' thing is that NONE of these political social welfare groups should qualify. They don't have a political purpose? Yeah, right.
There is a time frame involved wherein these groups can effectively voice their positions and exercise their right to free speech in order to make the case for or against a philosophy or idea. By selective scrutiny and delay the IRS effectively undermined the right of law abiding citizens to exercise free speech.

Moreover, whether or not the organizations qualify as political or social welfare is a matter for us to discuss and the courts to decide but the IRS acted unilaterally to deny rights or delay the opportunity to exercise those rights based on nothing more than the fact that they dont agree the message being delivered and hold a disdain for those who agree with such a message.

tl;dr

That's ****ed. That's wrong. And every American should tremble in fear if this precedent is allowed to stand.
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:35 PM   #150
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IMO only if he commits a crime then tries to cover it up or lie under oath\police.
Oh so major incompetence doesn't count? Major incompetence to the point, American deaths could have been prevented? Incompetence covered up with lies to fool the American people before the election?

OK, lets lower the bar for our affirmative action president.

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