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Old 05-13-2013, 02:34 PM  
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MSNBC on IRS Scandal : THIS IS TYRANNY...

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough tore into the federal government over the Internal Revenue Service’s targeting of conservative groups.

In addition to calling the admitted actions “mind-boggling,” the personality highlighted the assertion that “this government is using the Internal Revenue Service to target people with whom they disagree.” Others, like co-host Willie Geist, jumped in to say that the collective actions constitute ”tyranny.”

“When it comes to political speech, it’s sacrosanct. Our founding fathers meant for it to be sacrosanct,” Scarborough said, going on the lambaste the IRS. “Liberal and conservative Supreme Courts alike do not allow the government to tread on political speech. There is a wall around that, and the wall has been knocked down by the IRS for several years now.”

Geist mirrored these sentiments, as did other “Morning Joe” panelists and co-hosts. While he noted that other claims about the government coming after guns have been overblown, the threat to free-speech posed by the IRS in this instance, in Geist’s view, is a true government-led assault.

“There’s been many overblown claims of tyranny and abuse of power from the government over the last few years. We’ve heard those. We’re coming for your guns — that kind of thing,” he said. “This is tyranny. If this is the government, a nonpartisan agency coming after specific groups, this time it’s real.”

Scarborough also called for Obama to “fire people” and to come out condemning the “unspeakable” actions of the IRS in the harshest terms possible. Rather than sitting back and ignoring the scandal, he implored the president to demand answers.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:25 PM   #31
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Aren't people who are always stoned supposed to be, like, not so gloomy all the time?
You'd be as upset as he is if you were the victim of a tranny.

EDIT: My bad. Tyranny. It appears that Bump's the victim of tyranny.
****ing glaucoma.

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Old 05-14-2013, 11:53 PM   #32
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You'd be as upset as he is if you were the victim of a tranny.

EDIT: My bad. Tyranny. It appears that Bump's the victim of tyranny.
****ing glaucoma.
It is a matter of human rights. Weed is a medicine that could be afforded by all and it would just make a lot of people's lives a lot better.

But no, you'd prefer to toss people in jail with no criminal history, just possessed a joint and you think they deserve prison time just like a murderer.

You are a scumbag, really.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:59 PM   #33
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It is a matter of human rights. Weed is a medicine that could be afforded by all and it would just make a lot of people's lives a lot better.

But no, you'd prefer to toss people in jail with no criminal history, just possessed a joint and you think they deserve prison time just like a murderer.

You are a scumbag, really.
Yes, but I'm a scumbag that favors legal weed and actually lives in a place where that's the case, you stoner idiot.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:02 AM   #34
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I'll use epilepsy as an example. It's known that marijuana helps epilepsy patients very effectively. But people like Cosmo, Donger, honestChiefsfan and ClevelandBronco would tell those epilepsy patients sorry, you're gonna have to go to jail now.

But here take Fycompa, it's approved by the FDA. Now it doesn't control your seizures as well as your previous evil, illegal treatment has. But you will now take these pills. Side effects include:

Irritability
Aggression
Anger
Anxiety
Paranoia
Euphoric mood
Agitation
Dizziness
Drowsiness
Fatigue
Irritability
Falls
Upper respiratory tract infection
Weight gain
Vertigo
Loss of muscle coordination (ataxia)
Gait disturbance
Balance disorder
Anxiety
Blurred vision
Stuttering (dysarthria)
Weakness (asthenia)
Aggression
Excessive sleep (hypersomni


Drink some alcohol, smoke a cigarette, take dangerous FDA approved pills. But whatever you do! Do not smoke weed, that's the devil.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:04 AM   #35
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Yes, but I'm a scumbag that favors legal weed and actually lives in a place where that's the case, you stoner idiot.
no, I dont pay much attention to you. Not aware of any of your personal details.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:16 AM   #36
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no, I dont pay much attention to you. Not aware of any of your personal details.
It's cool. I don't share much detail anyway. The only thing I know about you is that you have a very unhealthy relationship with drugs.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:21 AM   #37
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It's cool. I don't share much detail anyway. The only thing I know about you is that you have a very unhealthy relationship with drugs.
In fairness, his chances to get bladder cancer are significantly reduced.
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Old 05-15-2013, 12:35 AM   #38
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In fairness, his chances to get bladder cancer are significantly reduced.
I imagine that news will be a comfort to him if 15 minutes from now he can recall ever seeing it.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:07 AM   #39
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That's not true at all.
Right...

It's all so grass roots. Corporate lobbying has nothing to do with policy. They're totally not in bed with each other.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:02 AM   #40
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I'll use epilepsy as an example. It's known that marijuana helps epilepsy patients very effectively. But people like Cosmo, Donger, honestChiefsfan and ClevelandBronco would tell those epilepsy patients sorry, you're gonna have to go to jail now.
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:25 AM   #41
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:21 AM   #42
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Obama’s Cronkite moment
Did the president lose Jon Stewart -- and his millennial base -- last night?
BY ALEX SEITZ-WALD

Obama can’t seek reelection anymore, of course. But he lost the Right long ago, and one wonders if at least some segments of his base may be losing patience as well, as the latest scandals on transparency and freedom of the press strike nerves close to the progressive heart. If George W. Bush targeted AP reporters, or systematically went after liberal groups, the left would be justifiably outraged (and was).

Meanwhile on CNN, Piers Morgan, who is also usually quite friendly to the president and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, said Obama’s failures on transparency is America “at its worst.”
Especially when he promised a change in transparency. I think it all goes to show, that we can't rely on anyone seeking govt power, particularly the highest level to really reform themselves. Yet, people still have too much faith that govt is good enough to do this.

Good article. Though I think the Establishment is behind taking Obama down. Thus the media are really turning on him: 1) Obamacare is running into obstacles in being implemented 2) Syria is dragging out and it's coming out more that we're funding the AQ-aligned rebels. The Republicans will use all of it, including Benghazi, call for investigations but not a deep enough one because that will expose their own corruption.

There is a lot of rot in our govt today.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:39 AM   #43
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It's cool. I don't share much detail anyway. The only thing I know about you is that you have a very unhealthy relationship with drugs.
I do?
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:57 AM   #44
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Obama’s Cronkite moment
Did the president lose Jon Stewart -- and his millennial base -- last night?
BY ALEX SEITZ-WALD


If President Obama has lost Jon Stewart, has he lost his base? It’s a question worth considering after the Daily Show host tore into the president Monday night for a series of scandals and controversies that seem to piling up by the hour this week. In a shouty, expletive-laden segment, Stewart said, said the IRS scandal will be fodder to the right-wing conspiracy theories he’s been battling for years and that it single handily “shifted the burden of proof from the tin foil-behatted to the government:”

“Well, congratulations, President Barack Obama, Conspiracy theorists who generally can survive in anaerobic environments have just had an algae bloom dropped on their f–king heads, thus removing the last arrow in your pro-governance quiver: skepticism about your opponents.”

By the time Stewart got around to the Department of Justice taking AP reporters’ phone records, he couldn’t even muster the energy for outrage, mumbling blankly “mother f–cker.”

Stewart, more than any other broadcaster or political figure, has become a voice for the millennial generation and a conduit for its political awakening in the Obama era. Stewart has never withheld criticism for the president, but the tone is usually like that of a comedic roast, ribbing but generous, or the kind of sober, but compassionate warning a friend may give about about the need to shape up. But Stewart’s performance last night suggests the host is losing his patience with the president. Could his viewers and a core constituency of the Obama base be not far behind him?

It calls to mind one of the most famed moments in broadcasting, when CBS News legend Walter Cronkite delivered an editorial opinion after the Tet Offensive in February 1968 saying, “It is increasingly clear to this reporter that the only rational way out then will be to negotiate, not as victors, but as an honorable people who lived up to their pledge to defend democracy, and did the best they could.”

Apparently watching at the White House, President Johnson, who had lost the left long ago, reportedly turned to an aide and said, “If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost Middle America.” Just a few weeks later, Johnson announced he would not seek reelection. (Critics say the event has been widely misreported and overblown, but it still looms large in the American consciousness of the era, even if apocryphally.)

Obama can’t seek reelection anymore, of course. But he lost the Right long ago, and one wonders if at least some segments of his base may be losing patience as well, as the latest scandals on transparency and freedom of the press strike nerves close to the progressive heart. If George W. Bush targeted AP reporters, or systematically went after liberal groups, the left would be justifiably outraged (and was).

Meanwhile on CNN, Piers Morgan, who is also usually quite friendly to the president and willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, said Obama’s failures on transparency is America “at its worst.”

“Four months into a fresh four years, President Obama is already assuming the familiar crouch of a scandal-struck second-termer,” Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank wrote today.


Alex Seitz-Wald is Salon's political reporter. Email him at aseitz-wald@salon.com, and follow him on Twitter @aseitzwald.
Strange conclusion drawn by Stewart...

He's been ranting against those on the right accusing the administration of underhandedness because Stewart doesn't believe their claims. The claims are proven right, and he's mad at Obama because his job of defending Obama just got harder.

In light of recent developments, you'd think he would stop spending his time attacking the people who turned out to be correct and start attacking the corruption in DC.
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You spend six years not doing your job, not reporting the truth about Barry, doing all you can to destroy his political opponents, and this is the thanks you get.

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