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Old 05-14-2013, 03:20 PM  
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BIG 12 AND SEC PLAY EACH OTHER

The inaugural Big 12/SEC Challenge was announced Tuesday with a schedule of 10 men’s basketball games to be played this fall.

All 10 of the Big 12’s teams and 10 of the SEC’s 14 schools will play in the annual event, which will be called the SEC/Big 12 Challenge in 2014. Arkansas, Georgia, LSU and Tennessee will not play in the first year. ESPN will broadcast all 10 games across its networks. Times and TV channels will be announced later.
Eight of the 10 games this year will be played at home sites — including KU at Florida, which was previously announced, West Virginia at Missouri and Mississippi at Kansas State. The other two matchups will be played at neutral sites.
Saturday, November 14
• Texas Tech at Alabama
Monday, December 2
• Vanderbilt at Texas
• Auburn at Iowa State
Thursday, December 5
• West Virginia at Missouri
• Mississippi at Kansas State
• TCU at Mississippi State
Friday, December 6
• South Carolina at Oklahoma State
• Kentucky vs. Baylor at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas
Tuesday, December 10
• Kansas at Florida
Saturday, December 21
• Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma in Houston

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/05/14...#storylink=cpy
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:43 AM   #31
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So these games are going to take place over the course of five weeks...

Gross

This thing is ****ing stupid. It's about as intriguing as the Big 12 PAC 12 challenge was. (Anyone remember that abortion?)

Here's my theory (based on nothing other than the fact that I look dashing in a nice tinfoil hat): This series has been created as a way to grease the skids for the aTm/Texas and Mizzou/KU rivalries to resume without Texas and Kansas losing face.

Those matchups will happen around year three, and the administrations will be able to say, "It's time to bury the hatchet...we've already played them in this challenge...albeit begrudgingly...so we might as well go ahead and move forward with the rivalry games and schedule them on our own terms".

Pairing them up year one would be too obvious and wouldn't provide cover for the true intentions, but when the inevitable happens..."Well, we didn't want to play them, but we don't control that part of the schedule, so our hands are tied."
KU just landed the best player in basketball since LeBron.

They couldn't care less about playing Mizzou today or twenty years from now.

Texas just revealed that their athletic department brings in a revenue around $163,000,000. This is $40,000,000 more than the closest SEC school.

I appreciate your attempt to once again take a shot at the Big 12 but the fact remains that these schools are excelling beyond anything they've done in the past athletically and financially.

This is a mutual attempt by both conferences to capitalize on the explosion in popularity of college basketball. Really nothing more.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:54 AM   #32
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So these games are going to take place over the course of five weeks...

Gross

This thing is ****ing stupid. It's about as intriguing as the Big 12 PAC 12 challenge was. (Anyone remember that abortion?)

Here's my theory (based on nothing other than the fact that I look dashing in a nice tinfoil hat): This series has been created as a way to grease the skids for the aTm/Texas and Mizzou/KU rivalries to resume without Texas and Kansas losing face.

Those matchups will happen around year three, and the administrations will be able to say, "It's time to bury the hatchet...we've already played them in this challenge...albeit begrudgingly...so we might as well go ahead and move forward with the rivalry games and schedule them on our own terms".

Pairing them up year one would be too obvious and wouldn't provide cover for the true intentions, but when the inevitable happens..."Well, we didn't want to play them, but we don't control that part of the schedule, so our hands are tied."

I'd rather see it like a week long challenge of nothing but Big 12/SEC games. Would make it more interesting and honestly, a fun ass week.

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post. It's kind of a way for the rivalries to be put back together (as they should be) without either team losing face. Like you said, "we don't control the scheduling of this Big 12/SEC challenge".
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:56 AM   #33
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KU just landed the best player in basketball since LeBron.

They couldn't care less about playing Mizzou today or twenty years from now.

Texas just revealed that their athletic department brings in a revenue around $163,000,000. This is $40,000,000 more than the closest SEC school.

I appreciate your attempt to once again take a shot at the Big 12 but the fact remains that these schools are excelling beyond anything they've done in the past athletically and financially.

This is a mutual attempt by both conferences to capitalize on the explosion in popularity of college basketball. Really nothing more.

Meh. KU playing MU is good for business. It's a national rivalry that dates back....how many years? It's good for exposure and man it makes for some fun weeks leading up to it.

And really, whether you or anyone doesn't want that game to happen, it's going to happen. Likely sooner than most expect.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:02 AM   #34
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:27 AM   #35
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I'd rather see it like a week long challenge of nothing but Big 12/SEC games. Would make it more interesting and honestly, a fun ass week.

Other than that, I agree with the rest of your post. It's kind of a way for the rivalries to be put back together (as they should be) without either team losing face. Like you said, "we don't control the scheduling of this Big 12/SEC challenge".
I think we totally agree. If it were set up such that the games were all played around the same time, it would be great. Ten games spread out over five weeks is pointless.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:34 AM   #36
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I think we totally agree. If it were set up such that the games were all played around the same time, it would be great. Ten games spread out over five weeks is pointless.
Yeah, that was poor wording on my part because we do actually agree on it all.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:44 AM   #37
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Yeah, that was poor wording on my part because we do actually agree on it all.
I may need to reconsider my opinion, then...
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:54 AM   #38
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Meh. KU playing MU is good for business. It's a national rivalry that dates back....how many years? It's good for exposure and man it makes for some fun weeks leading up to it.

And really, whether you or anyone doesn't want that game to happen, it's going to happen. Likely sooner than most expect.
I agree, it would be very good business for Mizzou. It is not however a national rivalry. I know way to many people from the East coast that think KSU is KU's only rival. The only time the national media cares about KU/MU games are when they are both ranked in the top 10. Most years it was only a local rivalry.

I would love to play Mizzou every year, I just don't want to give up a game against UK or Fla or whoever is the best team in the SEC to get it. If MU is the best team we can play from that league then by all means schedule it up.
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM   #39
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I may need to reconsider my opinion, then...

I was thinking the same thing.

Shit, we agree again. Let me run into the Realignment thread and just post "MU sucks bawls" to get us back on track.
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I was thinking the same thing.

Shit, we agree again. Let me run into the Realignment thread and just post "MU sucks bawls" to get us back on track.
FTR, I posted both opinions first. You are free to gravy train my rightness.
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Here's my theory (based on nothing other than the fact that I look dashing in a nice tinfoil hat): This series has been created as a way to grease the skids for the aTm/Texas and Mizzou/KU rivalries to resume without Texas and Kansas losing face.

Those matchups will happen around year three, and the administrations will be able to say, "It's time to bury the hatchet...we've already played them in this challenge...albeit begrudgingly...so we might as well go ahead and move forward with the rivalry games and schedule them on our own terms".

Pairing them up year one would be too obvious and wouldn't provide cover for the true intentions, but when the inevitable happens..."Well, we didn't want to play them, but we don't control that part of the schedule, so our hands are tied."

This is so fantastically stupid, I'm honestly surprised you posted it. I coudln't even read the entirety it was so dumb. You're not a dumb person so I don't know why you posted this, unless you are trolling.
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And really, whether you or anyone doesn't want that game to happen, it's going to happen. Likely sooner than most expect.

And of course, you are talking out your ass. If we look at public statements made by the University, by Zenger and by Self, your comment is clearly incorrect. Unless you suspect they are all lying. Which could be possible I suppose.
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This is so fantastically stupid, I'm honestly surprised you posted it. I coudln't even read the entirety it was so dumb. You're not a dumb person so I don't know why you posted this, unless you are trolling.
So what do you think led us to this fantastic event in which all of the Big 12 teams play some of the SEC teams in mostly boring matchups spread out over a five week span? Were fans left not knowing what to do with themselves since they couldn't hold their traditional Big 12/PAC 12 challenge parties until Bowelsby hatched a plan? Is the Texas vs Vanderbilt game going to spark a blood feud? Are the LSU fans pissed off that they have to wait until next year to get in on this action? Have you printed off a scoreboard for this "challenge"?

It's nothing more than greasing the skids for some rivalry games to restart without making the "never again" crowd look sillier than they already do.
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And of course, you are talking out your ass. If we look at public statements made by the University, by Zenger and by Self, your comment is clearly incorrect. Unless you suspect they are all lying. Which could be possible I suppose.
It's red meat for those in the fan base who are dumb and/or emotional enough to lap it up.

Plow doesn't fall into that category. Wickedson does.
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