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Old 05-05-2013, 05:03 PM  
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Bengahzi ? Wh Knew, Who lied, who turned a blind eye and deaf ears ?

Bengahzi, we all knew it was a cover up, millions of Americans was blind and deaf, yet still voted for a POTUS and staff that lied and covered it up.

Do you feel better about the POTUS now since this happened? ( as in your own twisted political view , you feel he was the right choice as POTUS )

Same, as in who cares?

Worst ?

So where do you stand about the current staff and the way Bengahzi was handled now ?
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:06 AM   #421
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:11 AM   #422
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Go back and read, I never said he was, I said he acted like one. My Gosh, You libs will do antying to distract from this corrupt administration.

I explained that last night how we were told back in the day that shills needed to disclose who they worked for but they rarely did. I was referring to back when I remember it run rampant on stock market message boards. It was what we were told back then, sounds like it can run rampant today. Although wikipedia does say about an internet shill that in some cases it is illegal, it doesn't explain how. That's all I could find these days. The main thing is to know that shill marketing does exist.

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I don't know when or if it's ever illegal, but it makes more sense in the case of someone trying to manipulate stock prices than it does in a political context. I'm skeptical that there are any laws against it in anything other than very narrow areas, if at all.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:16 AM   #423
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So I am reading these White House emails they released about Benghazi. I think and I am hopeful this will put this whole thing to rest. There was no conspiracy the CIA, specifically, CIA deputy director Mike Morell, heavily edited the whole talking points.

Oh well time to move on to the next "scandal" for my conservative friends.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:37 PM   #424
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I don't know when or if it's ever illegal, but it makes more sense in the case of someone trying to manipulate stock prices than it does in a political context. I'm skeptical that there are any laws against it in anything other than very narrow areas, if at all.
You could be right it doesn't apply to politics but I guess it would depend on how and who pays them. Either way, shill marketing exists and whether they are manipulating a product, stock, or just people, it is wrong.

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The FTC's Guides Concerning the Use of Testimonials and Endorsements defines an "endorsement" as any advertising message that consumers are likely to believe reflects the opinions, beliefs, findings, or experiences of a party other than the sponsoring advertiser. (The FTC intends to treat endorsements and testimonials the same.) Endorsements must reflect the honest experience or opinion of the endorser, and may not contain representations that would be deceptive, or could not be substantiated, if the advertiser made them directly. Any material connection between a person endorsing a product and the company selling the product must be fully disclosed. A "material connection" is defined as a relationship that might materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement (e.g., an employment relationship)
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:58 PM   #425
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He's already explained why he said it. It shouldn't be that difficult to accept his explanation and move on.
He said:

"I think you do this on purpose to try to drown out the debate. It's a tactic of shill marketers to stifle debate. Yes, I know they exist and you act just like one. The thing is, do you get paid for this? Because, if you do, it's illegal not to disclose it."

I'm curious what law one would be breaking for getting paid to post on this site. He hasn't come close to providing such a citation. Assuming he's not lying about it being illegal, why not provide the citation?
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:02 PM   #426
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"I think you do this on purpose to try to drown out the debate. It's a tactic of shill marketers to stifle debate. Yes, I know they exist and you act just like one. The thing is, do you get paid for this? Because, if you do, it's illegal not to disclose it."

I'm curious what law one would be breaking for getting paid to post on this site. He hasn't come close to providing such a citation. Assuming he's not lying about it being illegal, why not provide the citation?


Look one post above yours.

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Old 05-16-2013, 01:02 PM   #427
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Look one post above yours.

How does that apply to cosmo's post?
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:04 PM   #428
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Assuming he's not lying about it being illegal, why not provide the citation?
He's not lying, he made a mistake based on a previous experience. That has already been explained in the course of this thread.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:05 PM   #429
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How does that apply to cosmo's post?
Go reread my post, geez.

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Old 05-16-2013, 01:06 PM   #430
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Go reread my post, geez.

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Old 05-16-2013, 01:10 PM   #431
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I'm curious what law one would be breaking for getting paid to post on this site. He hasn't come close to providing such a citation. Assuming he's not lying about it being illegal, why not provide the citation?
No you're not. You're overplaying your gotcha and you're failing to graciously accept his already offered explanation that it's just something he had heard.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:58 PM   #432
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C- I would say that Cosmo is much more likely to be a Direckshun alt than any type of paid shill although Cosmo does use exactly those kinds of tactics that a paid shill would
Interesting. I have read that the WH has unleashed people across social media, blogs and forums to post. If businesses have people posting positive reviews of their own products, I don't see why a political leader would it make it a part of their marketing mix. Obama is always marketing....he's even used the apparatus of his still-intact campaign, to get his gun control message put out there to win more support, to be followed by another attempt at passing it. He's even gone so far as to get his agenda on guns implemented at the state level. I've often wondered about cosmos being a part of the internet blogging part.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:08 PM   #433
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Interesting. I have read that the WH has unleashed people across social media, blogs and forums to post. If businesses have people posting positive reviews of their own products, I don't see why a political leader would it make it a part of their marketing mix. Obama is always marketing....he's even used the apparatus of his still-intact campaign, to get his gun control message put out there to win more support, to be followed by another attempt at passing it. He's even gone so far as to get his agenda on guns implemented at the state level. I've often wondered about cosmos being a part of the internet blogging part.
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Because they knew that they were left to fend for themselves and would say so (if they survived). That would make the Commander in Chief guilty of neglect so they were silenced.
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Ah, this topic again. I'll just throw this out there:

1) We had assets in the area

2) Those assets were not used

Can I just focus on these two for a second? So far all I'm aware of for "assets in the area" are FOUR guys (with no further backup being available to support them), and/or a flyover by jets.

Are there other assets that you're referring to?
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