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Old 05-15-2013, 02:26 PM  
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Updating my Weber grill...

This is not my Bullet, nor is it my charcoal grill. This is my natural gas (NG) Weber grill that I've had for 13 years. It's a freaking rock star for convenience.

There were internal parts showing some significant wear and some were falling apart. The worst culprits were the flavorizer bars and the cooking grate. I searched and searched for reasonable replacement parts but holy moly they're expensive. Fortunately, I found a guy in Poplar Bluff, MO that makes stainless flavorizer bars for much less than Weber (or their retailers) charges for enameled steel. I got them today and they fit perfectly! I bit the bullet and paid $40 for new grates. Not much of a choice out there for those.

I thought about buying a new NG grill (NG is more money), but the similar model to mine (Weber Genesis Gold) is now pushing $1000! Sheesh! I paid $299 in 2000.

Everything else looks great. The SS burners are nearly pristine after all these years.

Anyone else been through a Weber update? It ain't cheap, but damn they last a long time.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:43 AM   #61
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What kind of chimney, my weber one is awesome. Don't even really feel like we are waiting on it.
Agree. Chimney starters are amazing.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:08 AM   #62
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What kind of chimney, my weber one is awesome. Don't even really feel like we are waiting on it.
This.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:12 AM   #63
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shit, I purchased a chimney and it takes much longer than 20 minutes for me. I threw the thing out. I don't care if the lighter fluid affects the taste since I don't use much and I am not even in the same ballpark as an expert griller. I don't have the patience for that.

To be honest, I am just waiting for a good deal on a gas grill again and will probably sell my weber.

Sears had a decent deal on a 4 burner unit but they wouldn't give the warranty for it because it was a floor model. Even though it had NEVER been used.
If you use an electric starter ring, they fire right up. You don't need to wait till flames are coming out the top, just about half way up. Remember, unless you are using some sort of pre soaked coals (never!), then the coals wont have an off taste if they aren't red.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:40 AM   #64
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I am in the market for a new grill. I have only ever used charcoal with lighter fluid but I am exploring my options now that I can put a little more money into something for our house. I had heard of those chimney starters but it seems like a bit of a hassle to put the charcoal in one thing then transfer it to another. Is that what is done? And how much quicker is it actually?

I was also looking at a charcoal weber grill that apparently uses a Touch N Go iginition system (propane I guess) to light the charcoal. Would that or a chimney starter be more beneficial than the other?
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:47 AM   #65
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What kind of chimney, my weber one is awesome. Don't even really feel like we are waiting on it.
I have a cheap piece of crap one I bought from Garden Ridge and while I've never timed it, it seems like it gets it going in 10-15 minutes. I use lump instead of briquets so maybe that's the difference.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:50 AM   #66
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I am in the market for a new grill. I have only ever used charcoal with lighter fluid but I am exploring my options now that I can put a little more money into something for our house. I had heard of those chimney starters but it seems like a bit of a hassle to put the charcoal in one thing then transfer it to another. Is that what is done? And how much quicker is it actually?

I was also looking at a charcoal weber grill that apparently uses a Touch N Go iginition system (propane I guess) to light the charcoal. Would that or a chimney starter be more beneficial than the other?
Newspaper that you can normally scrounge up for free seems more beneficial to me vs propane or charcoal starter.

And you just have to dump the charcoal into the grill once it's going, it's not really a hassle at all.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:56 AM   #67
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Newspaper that you can normally scrounge up for free seems more beneficial to me vs propane or charcoal starter.

And you just have to dump the charcoal into the grill once it's going, it's not really a hassle at all.
Yup, I just look around for some paper that will burn and go with it.

I've heard some mixed results on the non-weber branded versions of the chimneys, seems hit or miss, but glad you got a hit! I knew with my luck that if I tried to go cheaper I would end up with a crappy one, and what I saved by not buying yet another gas grill made up for it, lol.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:18 PM   #68
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Newspaper that you can normally scrounge up for free seems more beneficial to me vs propane or charcoal starter.

And you just have to dump the charcoal into the grill once it's going, it's not really a hassle at all.
That is actually a good thing since the one with the propane starter is $50 more and the weber chimney starter is only $15 at The Home Depot. Do you wait until the coals are red hot and turning to ash or do you transfer them soon after lighting?
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:22 PM   #69
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That is actually a good thing since the one with the propane starter is $50 more and the weber chimney starter is only $15 at The Home Depot. Do you wait until the coals are red hot and turning to ash or do you transfer them soon after lighting?
I wait until I'm getting ash, but it really doesn't take long at all.

Spend the $15. You'll be happy with it.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:26 PM   #70
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I wait until I'm getting ash, but it really doesn't take long at all.

Spend the $15. You'll be happy with it.
Cool. I am not really concerned with the time it takes. Part of the fun of grilling is being outside and enjoying your yard. I just want to make sure if I go this route I do it correctly by placing the coals in the grill at the right time and using the right amount. I also like the idea of using charcoal without needing lighter fluid.

One more question. So you light the chimney from the bottom, do the charcoals heat up at different rates depending on whether they are on top, in the middle, or on the bottom?
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A charcoal chimney is the way to go. I haven't used lighter fluid in 20 years. No need for it, no need to add the chemicals to the mix. A charcoal chimney works like a champ.
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Cool. I am not really concerned with the time it takes. Part of the fun of grilling is being outside and enjoying your yard. I just want to make sure if I go this route I do it correctly by placing the coals in the grill at the right time and using the right amount. I also like the idea of using charcoal without needing lighter fluid.

One more question. So you light the chimney from the bottom, do the charcoals heat up at different rates depending on whether they are on top, in the middle, or on the bottom?
Yup, bottom will heat up first. I generally wait till the top ones are somewhat lit and then dump them. Though sometimes I come back and I have a ball of red hot screaming fire coming from the thing. If you are looking to cook longer, I assume the first way makes more sense as the hotter coals will burn out first and the others will continue to burn.
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Newspaper that you can normally scrounge up for free seems more beneficial to me vs propane or charcoal starter.

And you just have to dump the charcoal into the grill once it's going, it's not really a hassle at all.
this... just pre load it up while you are bbqing, keep dry so its ready to roll for next time...

they work awesome
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