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Old 01-25-2013, 04:27 PM  
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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He hasn't. He's been the luckiest pitcher in baseball. The dude's FIP is 5.59 and he's been a below replacement level starter. He's survived on an absolutely ridiculous 95% LOB percentage.
I made this exact point in the game thread the other day. It is correct. He's been no different than Wade Davis.
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Looks like we have the old throw in the towel lineup today.
No shit. And if you are going to throw in the towel why not let Adams hit some lefty pitching?
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No shit. And if you are going to throw in the towel why not let Adams hit some lefty pitching?
They overpaid for Wigginton, so I think MM feels compelled to get him ABs. It's too bad that Craig can't pass at 3rd, b/c Freese is really scuffling right now, and giving him a few days to rest and sort out his swing would help.

He's hitting a ****ton of grounders right now, probably b/c he's pulling the ball instead of driving it oppo, and combined with some "meh" defense, he's been one of the worst players in the NL to this point.
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If you want to win in baseball, you need a few things: the first is a good owner. That means someone who is engaged, willing to spend but not overspend, someone who is patient but requires standards. The second thing you need is a good development system and the final is a good scouting system.

The Cardinals have all three. The Royals used to. The Yankees were fortunate enough to have it for a few years when Steinbrenner was banned from baseball, which is what allowed them to build the team that won 4/5 titles.

Ultimately, you're looking for excuses that make it easier to sleep, b/c the assumption that St. Louis has all of these ingrained advantages is just a fantasy. The Cardinals have more success than the Royals because they have better ownership, and that ownership has built a better franchise. There isn't a regional or financial roadblock, and there is no such thing as a small market team, only small market owners.
Article on how the Cardinals success starts with the owners decision.
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Bernie: Cards' success starts at the top


Cardinals GM John Mozeliak often sports a flamboyant bow tie when he goes to work at Busch Stadium, but there’s no truth to the rumor that he’s instructed team employees to call him “Branch Rickey” or “Mahatma.”

If the bow tie fits, wear it.

Rickey is among the most iconic front-office executives in baseball history, immortalized for ending baseball’s institutional segregation by signing African-American Jackie Robinson to play for the Brooklyn Dodgers.

During a lengthy and memorable run as Cardinals GM, Rickey changed the industry by developing the first modern minor-league system. He scouted and signed players who had leading roles in the five World Series championships won in the 1930s and 1940s.

The Cardinals’ ability to cultivate an immense stockpile of elite talent drew the ire of Commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis, who twice ordered the release of more than 50 Cardinals minor-league players to give them a chance to play elsewhere. But other franchises soon adopted the Rickey model and put their own networks in place.

In 2013 the Cardinals’ player-development system is the buzz of baseball. The franchise is producing a trove of coveted talent, led by a procession of power-armed pitchers who come to the majors equipped with radiating fastballs.

The system has delivered nine pitchers on the current staff: Lance Lynn, Jaime Garcia, Shelby Miller, Trevor Rosenthal, Carlos Martinez, Joe Kelly, John Gast, Seth Maness and Fernando Salas. Other gold-plated pitching prospects, including Michael Wacha, are warming in the minors.

Of the 30 players who have appeared in a major-league game for the Cardinals this season, 19 were drafted and developed internally. Two others, Martinez and Salas, were signed as undrafted free agents, then raised trough the system.

Position players from the draft-alum list include Yadier Molina, Allen Craig, Matt Carpenter, Jon Jay and Matt Adams. And at Class AAA Memphis there is a potential superstar in waiting in outfielder Oscar Taveras.

So when Mozeliak wears the bow tie, he does it in a way to honor the Cardinals’ glorious past — which, as he points out, is also this team’s future. Many decades later, the Rickey Way is once again the Cardinals’ Way.

There are 30 teams in major-league baseball.

Only one, the Cardinals, could make this claim Tuesday: best record in the majors, and the highest-rated minor-league system. The Cardinals are built to win now, and they are built to last.

The person who deserves the most credit for this organizational super structure is Cardinals Chairman Bill DeWitt Jr.

“Bill was a visionary,” Mozeliak said. “He made all of this possible.”

It was DeWitt who hired business-school graduate Jeff Luhnow in 2003 to bring a more enlightened, advanced approach to player evaluation.

Though ridiculed and tagged as “Harry Potter” by hardened old-school baseball types, Luhnow dramatically transformed the way the Cardinals procured young talent. The Luhnow draft picks can be found up and down the Cardinals’ 2013 big-league roster.

For his part, Mozeliak played a valuable role in closing the great philosophical divide within the organization that prompted DeWitt to fire GM Walt Jocketty after the 2007 season. DeWitt ended the Jocketty-Luhnow power struggle by choosing Luhnow, who became Houston Astros GM in 2012.

Taking over as GM after the tumultuous 2007 season, Mozeliak brokered a peace accord between the remaining warring factions and secured the necessary cooperation of manager Tony La Russa.

Later, when Luhnow became overly aggressive in pushing for select draft picks to be promoted quickly through the system, Mozeliak restructured the setup to put a firewall between the draft side and the development side.

Many have helped make this system what it is today, but the movement began with DeWitt, who hired Luhnow and expanded the franchise financial investment in scouting, drafting and international operations.

It was a bold move, given the timing of DeWitt’s decision to change the paradigm. At that time, pretty much only the bad teams preached the Draft and Development mantra. That’s all they had.

The Cardinals at the time had success on the field, sellout crowds filling the stadium, star players and the proven leadership in the La Russa-Jocketty alliance. But DeWitt saw escalating salaries, the rising cost of veteran pitching and an organization that had become too reliant on acquiring talent via trades and free agency.

“From a strategic standpoint, the organization shifted gears,” Mozeliak said. “Bill was the one that was very aware that we did not have a sustainable model. He believed that for us to have success, we had to look at this more organically than just simply ‘free-agent market, trade market.’ So he changed it.”

As the Cardinals’ catcher at the time, Mike Matheny was probably as puzzled as anybody when he witnessed DeWitt breaking up a winning archetype. And now, as the team’s manager, Matheny understands the brilliance of DeWitt’s long-range vision.

“You need some cost-controlled players,” Matheny said. “That’s what the organization is trying to do. Continue to have that young group that keeps working their way through our system. If they’re cost controlled, then it enables you to afford veteran free agents to fill the holes. That’s a great model, and they’ve been able to do that. It’s impressive.”

Despite getting walloped by injuries and the free-agent loss of Albert Pujols, the Cardinals are positioned to win for a long time. The Rickey Way is once again the Cardinal Way. And the right way.
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Descalso really pissed me off tonight. Bases loaded, bottom of the 9th, a walk wins the game against a pitcher who can't throw strikes and who walked the two previous batters and he comes out hacking.

Axford threw five pitches in that AB and none of them were strikes. Absolutely shameful situational awareness and it cost the Cardinals the game.

Now that Garcia has gone down with his annual injury to the labia in his shoulder, what do you do?

Option 1: Promote an undeserving Joe Kelly to the rotation (looks like this is the route they are going)
Option 2: Bring up Wacha
Option 3: Hope Boggs comes back from his section 8, send Rosenthal down to stretch him out, and bring him back sometime around July as a starter.

Westbrook needs to get healthy quickly, otherwise too many of our innings will be eaten by arms that aren't ready for a 200 inning workload.
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FWIW, I looked up Axford's splits against us for the last three years, not including tonight:

ERA: 3.79
WHIP: 1.52

We have never hit a HR against him. Dude is the luckiest mother****er on Earth when he faces the Cardinals.
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Descalso really pissed me off tonight. Bases loaded, bottom of the 9th, a walk wins the game against a pitcher who can't throw strikes and who walked the two previous batters and he comes out hacking.
That AB was pathetic, horrendous. I don't understand why Larussa and now Matheny loves the guy. Carpenter has proved he is just as good as Descalso and he can hit. He drags the team down. WTF you swing at that shit after walking two batters..... thats criminal
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Axford threw five pitches in that AB and none of them were strikes. Absolutely shameful situational awareness and it cost the Cardinals the game.

Now that Garcia has gone down with his annual injury to the labia in his shoulder, what do you do?

Option 1: Promote an undeserving Joe Kelly to the rotation (looks like this is the route they are going)
Option 2: Bring up Wacha
Option 3: Hope Boggs comes back from his section 8, send Rosenthal down to stretch him out, and bring him back sometime around July as a starter.

Westbrook needs to get healthy quickly, otherwise too many of our innings will be eaten by arms that aren't ready for a 200 inning workload.
Has to be Wacha. Gast isn't ready to pitch 7 innings at the ML level. Kelly was good as a starter for a while. Does anyone really trust him? Martinez isn't ready for starter duty.

But, at least we have options. Most clubs that lose 3 out of their 5 starters would be in big trouble.
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Descalso really pissed me off tonight. Bases loaded, bottom of the 9th, a walk wins the game against a pitcher who can't throw strikes and who walked the two previous batters and he comes out hacking.

Axford threw five pitches in that AB and none of them were strikes. Absolutely shameful situational awareness and it cost the Cardinals the game.

Now that Garcia has gone down with his annual injury to the labia in his shoulder, what do you do?

Option 1: Promote an undeserving Joe Kelly to the rotation (looks like this is the route they are going)
Option 2: Bring up Wacha
Option 3: Hope Boggs comes back from his section 8, send Rosenthal down to stretch him out, and bring him back sometime around July as a starter.

Westbrook needs to get healthy quickly, otherwise too many of our innings will be eaten by arms that aren't ready for a 200 inning workload.
I don't know that they will move Kelly with him having thrown tonight. Last year he was a serviceable fifth starter; he's garbage in the pen. I'd like to at least give it a shot and see if he picks up where he left off in the rotation.
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Wonder if they are thinking/hoping he has got his mental shit together. Then they can move Rosenthal to the rotation?
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Wonder if they are thinking/hoping he has got his mental shit together. Then they can move Rosenthal to the rotation?
I honestly don't ever see Rosenthal going to the rotation.
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