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Old 05-16-2013, 11:51 AM  
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Benghazi Emails Directly Contradict White House Claims

The White House on Wednesday released 94 pages of emails between top administration and intelligence officials who helped shape the talking points about the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, that the CIA would provide to policymakers in both the legislative and executive branches.

The documents, first reported by THE WEEKLY STANDARD in articles here and here, directly contradict claims by White House press secretary Jay Carney and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton that the revisions of those talking points were driven by the intelligence community and show heavy input from top Obama administration officials, particularly those at the State Department.

The emails provide further detail about the rewriting of the talking points during a 24-hour period from midday September 14 to midday September 15. As THE WEEKLY STANDARD previously reported, a briefing from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence shows that the big changes came in three waves – internally at the CIA, after email feedback from top administration officials, and during or after a meeting of high-ranking intelligence and national security officials the following morning.

The initial CIA changes softened some of the language about the participants in the Benghazi assault – from “Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda” to “Islamic extremists.” But CIA officials also added bullet points about the possible participation of Ansar al Sharia, an al Qaeda-linked jihadist group, and previous warnings about the deteriorating security situation in Benghazi. Those additions came out after the talking points were sent to “the interagency,” where the CIA’s final draft was further stripped down to little more than boilerplate. The half dozen references to terrorists – both in Benghazi and more generally – all but disappeared. Gone were references to al Qaeda, Ansar al Sharia, jihadists, Islamic extremists, etc. The only remaining mention was a note that “extremists” had participated in the attack.

As striking as what appears in the email traffic is what does not. There is no mention of the YouTube video that would become a central part of the administration’s explanation of the attacks to the American people until a brief mention in the subject line of emails coming out of an important meeting where further revisions were made.

Carney, in particular, is likely to face tough questioning about the contents of the emails because he made claims to reporters that were untrue. “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two – of these two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility,’ because the word ‘consulate’ was inaccurate,” he told reporters on November 28, 2012.

That’s not true. An email sent at 9:15 PM on September 14, from an official in the CIA’s Office of Public Affairs to others at the agency, described the process this way. “The State Department had major reservations with much or most of the document. We revised the document with their concerns in mind.”

That directly contradicts what Carney said. It’s also difficult to reconcile with claims made by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during testimony she gave January 23 on Capitol Hill.

“It was an intelligence product,” she said, adding later that the “intelligence community was the principal decider about what went into talking points.” (See here for the original version of the talking points and the final one.)

Carney and other top Obama administration officials have long maintained that CIA officials revised the talking points with minimal input from Obama administration officials. The claim made little sense when they made it – why would CIA officials revise on their own a set of talking points they’d already finalized? The emails demonstrate clearly that it isn’t true.

Another CIA email, this one a draft of a message for CIA director David Petraeus, noted that the talking points process had “run into major problems,” in part because of the “major concerns” raised by the State Department. That same email reported that the issues would be revisited at the Deputies Committee meeting on Saturday morning.

Elsewhere, CIA officials seemed to understand that the document had been stripped of most of its content. An email from an official with the CIA’s Office of Terrorism Analysis, the office that drafted the original version of the talking points, signed off on the final version but seemed to understand that the new version wouldn’t please those who had requested it. “They are fine with me,” this CIA official wrote. “But, pretty sure HPSCI [the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence] won’t like them. :-)”

When Petraeus received the rewritten talking points, he objected. “Frankly, I’d just as soon not use this,” he wrote to a legislative affairs staffer. But he declined to put up a fight.

The documents answer some questions and raise many others. Did Hillary Clinton have any role in the efforts of State Department staffers to push for the many substantive revisions to the talking points? Clinton, who testified that she was a hands-on part of the State Department’s response to the attacks, has claimed she had nothing to do with the talking points.

And what about the administration’s claims that State and White House officials weren’t involved with substantive edits? In one email, Jake Sullivan, deputy chief of staff to Hillary Clinton, reports to State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland that he’s spoken with Obama’s top spokesman at the National Security Council, Tommy Vietor. “I spoke with Tommy. We’ll work through this in the morning and get comments back.”

In a separate email, he writes: “Talked to Tommy. We can make edits.”

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Old 05-17-2013, 05:05 PM   #46
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this is the political version of a child blaming a sibling for something they did.

Why would the GOP need to alter anything? It's already bad enough. If anybody altered anything, you can bet your last dollar it was the White House - the emails chains themselves ( no matter which 'version' ) prove they are use to altering things.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:29 AM   #47
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this is the political version of a child blaming a sibling for something they did.

Why would the GOP need to alter anything? It's already bad enough. If anybody altered anything, you can bet your last dollar it was the White House - the emails chains themselves ( no matter which 'version' ) prove they are use to altering things.

Forged documents designed to libel the President isn't a scandal?

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Old 05-18-2013, 07:46 AM   #48
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Forged documents designed to libel the President isn't a scandal?

You can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, right?
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:52 AM   #49
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You can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, right?
Never tried. And you couldn't afford me anyway.

How is this related to Republicans altering Emails for political gain?
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:54 AM   #50
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:58 AM   #51
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[Lame distraction attempt ]

Thanks for posting a picture from a site that Chrome finds dangerous. I now get a warning every time I come to this specific page.

Also, that is not a defense against altered emails.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:00 AM   #52
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I have a hard time believing that republicans would be stupid enough to doctor emails. I have a much easier time believing that Dems somehow tricked the Republicans into releasing doctored emails or that it was a mistake of some sort. It would work nicely for Dems to be able to shift attention from Obama admin's culpability to supposed underhanded tactics by GOP.


What was the previous instance where something like that happened? Everyone got in an uproar about something that was supposedly leaked by GOP, then it turned out the Dems were in collusion with some journalist and they were the actual source?
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:01 AM   #53
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Poor Barry. He doesn't know what the heck is going on! He's just a crazy, mixed up girl!

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Old 05-18-2013, 08:03 AM   #54
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Never tried. And you couldn't afford me anyway.

How is this related to Republicans altering Emails for political gain?
The reality of this situation is both parties have proven time and time they are incompetent and corrupt. What I do find strange is people like yourself willing to overlook, spin and defend what has gone on with this administration. I am middle of the road and believe I am part of the true majority in this country. We have no party and are forced to pick whichever side we lean to~
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South Carolina Republican Trey Gowdy discussed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her role in the Benghazi scandal. He also questioned the selective method by which the administration has revealed what happened on September 11, 2012.

“You can’t lie to Congress whether you’re sworn in or not. …I would like the chance to ask her [Clinton] some questions and hopefully I will get that chance at some point. … If you want to know what happened in Benghazi I would think that you would talk to everyone who might potentially have first hand knowledge. If 10 people watch a car wreck why would you talk to three?”


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Old 07-20-2013, 08:55 PM   #56
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Piss Boy stay out of my threads. You have NOTHING to say. Nothing. You have no integrity or credibility. You are a shameless stooge for a cocksucking communist from Chicongo. It makes me sick just reading your username.
that's funny, reading your user name makes me laugh...

you do talk about urine and cocksucking quite a bit, perhaps someone once urinated down your throat while you were sucking his cock?
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:48 AM   #57
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that's funny, reading your user name makes me laugh...

perhaps someone once urinated down your throat while you were sucking his cock?
Uh no.. that's what Holders People do to each other in prison. Thenwhen they get out, they have sex with women and spread AIDS. and all the black yoofs try and emulate them by wearing their pants real low showing off their booty, they look at them like they are something to aspire to be.

No wonder why ya'll are so ****ed up.

Perhaps you went to law school paid for by white taxpayers and the the only reason you got in is because of affirmative action?
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:28 AM   #58
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Old 07-21-2013, 11:00 AM   #59
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What a childish, ignorant statement. You have the left outraged over a false racism narrative being pushed over the death of a black person. Much of it flamed by the incompetence of this administration.

Benghazi is turning out to also be incompetence and lies by this administration that led to the deaths of 4 Americans. Where is the outrage, Dave? You libs are really sick in the head.

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