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Old 05-28-2013, 12:55 PM  
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The Sandbox Suggestion Box ("Sandgestion Box")

An owner suggested that we create a suggestion box, but there was no place to put his suggestion. So I'm creating this suggestion box so he can submit his suggestion for a suggestion box.

Also, please put any other suggestions here to improve the game so we can centralize the feedback and separate it from the game discussions themselves. As our beta testers, we appreciate your feedback and volunteer work. If we are creating the Apollo moon mission, you people are Ham the chimpanzee.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:13 PM   #16
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Would be helpful to have a "draft board" of sorts for free agency.

I've got all my players picked out in a text file but having it on the site would be useful.
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Old 05-29-2013, 05:37 PM   #17
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:13 PM   #18
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Found the search bar
Also the tables are sortable by column. You can sort by position or by high bids once the bidding starts.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:15 PM   #19
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Would be helpful to have a "draft board" of sorts for free agency.

I've got all my players picked out in a text file but having it on the site would be useful.
Several people have suggested notes page.

I'm thinking of a transparent popup text box for the key pages that you could save your notes to, to recall later.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:43 PM   #20
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Several people have suggested notes page.

I'm thinking of a transparent popup text box for the key pages that you could save your notes to, to recall later.
Actually I would prefer to have it exactly like the draft setup, where you have the big list on the left and you can create your own board next to it. Would that code be hard to copy/paste into the FA section? Or is that even possible?
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Old 05-29-2013, 10:53 PM   #21
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Actually I would prefer to have it exactly like the draft setup, where you have the big list on the left and you can create your own board next to it. Would that code be hard to copy/paste into the FA section? Or is that even possible?
I can see the value of that. There are some differences between drafting and bidding. The bidding system would be less complicated since there is no autopick. It is just an easily constructible and sortable list of your own free agent targets. The most difficult portions of the code could be adapted from what I've already written. It probably won't happen for a while but is a decent idea.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:30 PM   #22
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If we made some changes to the system now based on feedback (no guarantees, just saying), would it screw up everyone's contracts? We're just figuring out if we should make any changes now or wait until the 2013 season.
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:44 PM   #23
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I'm cool with whatever. As long as I don't have to click on 1,000 PFR pages again.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:28 PM   #24
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Okay, here's what we're proposing.

We're hearing three main critiques: rookies are too expensive, contract lengths and costs for mid-tier players/positional value, and a desire to keep some players from becoming free agents.

The Rookie Issue:

We'll have a rookie contract table that is separate and used only for the draft. It will price contract lengths by round, though as a concession to ease of use it will not price by position.

It will look like this:

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Rookie Contract Prices - Signing Points							
	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
7 Years	110	70	50	40	30	25	20
6 Years	84	53	38	30	23	19	15
5 Years	61	39	28	22	17	14	11
4 Years	41	26	19	15	11	9	7
3 Years	24	15	11	9	7	6	4
2 Years	11	7	5	4	3	3	2
1 Year	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
The Positional Value/Contract Length Issue:

For free agents, the bidding will proceed as normal. However, the pricing will be based on five position tiers:

Tier 1 - QB
Tier 2 HB, LT, WR, CB, 3-4 OLB, 4-3 DE
Tier 3 - TE, DT, NT, 3-4 DE, 4-3 LB, MLB/ILB
Tier 4 G, C, RT, *S, FB, KR/PR if no other position listed
Tier 5 P, K = 0.5

When you bid on a free agent or re-sign a player, the contract length correlates to the amount of money you pay for them. It's the same system originally put forth, but now we delineate by positional value.

The table below shows the thresholds for each contract length. Once you pay above the thresholds shown below, you have the rights to that player for X years (unless you trade him). So for example, if you pay 40 points for a defensive tackle, who is a Tier 3 player, you get his rights for four years. (Look at Tier 3, and if you pay between 37 and 54 points it's a four-year contract.) If you pay 40 points for a quarterback, who is a Tier 1 player, you only get his rights for two years. If you paid that quarterback 44 points you could up his contract to three years.

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Tier 1	Tier 2	Tier 3	Tier 4	Tier 5	
200	125	100	85	50	7 year
152	95	76	65	38	6 year
110	69	55	47	28	5 year
74	46	37	31	19	4 year
44	28	22	19	11	3 year
20	13	10	9	5	2 year
0	0	0	0	0	1 year
The Retain My Players Issue:


At the end of each season, all of your players with 0 contract years remaining will go to free agency, just like usual. However, there are two exceptions to the existing rule.
You can retain up to two players before they go through free agency. However, in order to do so, you must give them a contract of five years or longer. Also, note that they are now paid on the veteran scale.

Note that you can still retain the players by beating the high bid, as discussed in the initial rules.
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Old 05-31-2013, 04:19 PM   #25
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Suggesting for the FA auction:

A 'blind' auction close date. Nobody really knows when a FA is going to make up his mind. He may make it up in 2 days, may make it in 10. GoChiefs was worried about sniping and this would discourage that.

If every player has a somewhat randomized date that he goes 'final' on the auction block, you're well served to be honest in what you're willing to bid and bid it. You also have a real concern about where you're making your bids because you can't bid out more than you have and someone under the radar that you have your eye on could go off the board while you're allocating your FA dollars to other guys.

Seems to solve a few problems and also create some additional strategic possibilities.
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nobody will get sniped because the bid has to be inactive for 72 hours before it is a done deal.
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Yeah my sniping concern was people only bidding on a player because others were bidding on said player.
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Yeah my sniping concern was people only bidding on a player because others were bidding on said player.
And this kinda sidesteps that.

If I want a player and bid on him early, he may just say "**** it" and 1/2 an hour after I put my bid in, he signs the damn thing.

It certainly has the chance to backfire and piss some people right off, but if you know what you're willing to bid...sure seems to encourage you to bid it, does it not?

Maybe you give it an open 24 hour period and then after 24 hours, it could just close up on you.
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I see what you mean now.

I'd be down for that, especially as there are a LOT of players I'm interested in.

This would also be more realistic.
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