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Old 06-05-2013, 06:26 PM  
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Prodded by Andy Reid, Chiefs QB Alex Smith learning to be more aggressive
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
One of the qualities the Chiefs like in new quarterback Alex Smith is his recent history with few turnovers. Smith threw just 10 interceptions in his last 25 games for the San Francisco 49ers, a stat that looks extremely pretty in Kansas City after Chiefs quarterbacks committed 27 turnovers last season.

Smith’s low turnover rate was due at least in part by his reluctance to throw the ball down the field. He was referred to by frustrated 49ers fans as Captain Checkdown for his habit of throwing shorter patterns to receivers for shorter gains.

Smith is in the process of being reprogrammed by Andy Reid, his new coach. Reid doesn’t want to turn Smith into a turnover machine but wants him to be more aggressive, particularly during offseason practice.

“You want to get a feel for the offense now, particularly when you’re new at it (and) if there are close throws, challenge it, see what you can get away with,” Reid said. “If it ends up being an interception, OK, it’s an interception. You learn from it. These are smart guys so they learn from it and once they get into the season, they’re not experimenting with it on game day and they know what they can get away with and know what they can’t.

“It’s a new offense. I would tell any quarterback that comes in new that that’s what you need to do. I’ve told them all that. Go ahead and take your shots and see what you can get away with, within reason. But if it’s a close throw, there are going to be a few of those in the National Football League on game day so you need to know what you can get away with on each route.”

Smith and the other Chiefs quarterbacks were rewarded with several long completions in Wednesday’s practice. Smith had three such plays, including two to Jon Baldwin, while Tyler Bray and Ricky Stanzi had one apiece.

Wednesday’s barrage of big passing plays isn’t necessarily an indication the deep ball is back in the Chiefs’ offense. But since such plays have been scarce for the Chiefs in each of the past two seasons, they’re taking it as an encouraging sign.

“We’re just kind of continuing to press to see what we can do … finding out what we’re capable of,” Smith said. “You’ve got to find that out at some point. This is what the practice field is for.”

Smith was the NFL’s highest-rated passer last season before he was injured, missed a start and then replaced by Colin Kaepernick as San Francisco’s starting quarterback. Smith was completing more than 70 percent of his passes, a high rate, and had just five interceptions.

Still, he had just 30 touchdown passes in his final 25 starts for the 49ers. While that’s a good number as a ratio with his 10 interceptions, it still represents a shortage of big plays.

Smith won’t turn into a mad bomber overnight, if he ever does.

“You want to stay aggressive,” Smith said. “But in the end I’m always trying to make the right read and throw where the defense is telling me to throw. You don’t come out here and predetermine anything, like ‘Oh, I’m going to chuck it deep on this play.’ I’m constantly trying to just trust my eyes and what I’m seeing out there, trust my reads and what I’ve prepared for and then come out here and throw good balls.”

For his part, Reid might be OK with that. But for now, when an interception costs the Chiefs nothing, he would prefer Smith be more of a gambler.

“Everybody is all on board (with Smith),” Reid said. “He’s a good football player. He’s showing that (along with) good leadership. I’m asking him to do a ton of things. He’s handling it. We’ve had an interception here or there but that’s all part of this thing. You’ve got to find out about the offense and you can’t do it with your hands in your pocket. You’ve got to go out and try things and experiment. That’s what he’s doing now.

“It’s just good stuff. He’s staying aggressive with the ball, and I appreciate that.”

The final offseason practice is today. The Chiefs won’t get together again as a group until training camp begins in July at Missouri Western State University.

Smith indicated he may try to throw to some Chiefs receivers during their downtime in an effort to stay sharp.

“We’re heads and shoulder above where we were a couple of months ago,” he said. “But that’s a never-ending thing. I don’t think it’s something like, ‘We’ve got a good feel for each other so we don’t need to work anymore.’ You’re constantly working at it. This is our job, this is our craft. Every single day, it’s coming out here and pushing to get better.”
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:50 AM   #31
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common misconception

my entire Huard argument was...Huard wasn't good, not one bit...but he would constantly target Bowe and Gonzalez regardless of coverage which was the only way we could move the ball in a Herm offense...

whereas Green was simply too good...and he wouldn't try and fit the ball into windows that didn't exist...which resulted in him being sacked and our offense being terrible...where Gonzalez would make catch after catch in traffic.

Go read the archives. Nothing worse than a bunch of CP historians who don't even know CP history.
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Huard was the best QB on the Chiefs roster from 2006-2008 and it isn't even close. People tend to forget that the Chiefs won nine games with Huard in 2006, started off 4-3 and led the AFC West before he was lost for the season in 2007.

And those were some supremely undertalented and old teams.
I was just trolling, jeez.
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Old 06-06-2013, 02:57 AM   #32
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:53 AM   #33
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Being "aggressive" also refers to putting the ball into much tighter spots. Instead of dumping the ball off for a modest gain, Smith needs to trust himself and his receivers more and put the ball into tighter windows if the offensive is going to consistently move the ball downfield.
Absolutely. And it may mean instead of taking a sack, he goes for a lower probability, but still likely, pass. It may mean actually FEWER sacks.

I still don't understand how the 49ers offensive line gets so much love and yet their QB gets sacked so much. When our line was the best in football, we could pass AND run block effectively.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:16 AM   #34
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I can't believe people here are acting mad because Reid is trying to expand Smith's approach.

I mean are we really taking the 'How DARE Andy Reid ask Alex Smith to be more aggressive!" road? Is it a bad thing for the coach to see the limits of the QB's abilities?

Jesus people. Get a grip. I'm no Alex Smith fan, but this is an area almost everyone here has blasted Smith for. Why are you pissed? Yeah, it likely won't work. It's not a BAD thing for a coach to attempt to make a QB better though. It's called coaching.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:20 AM   #35
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Huard was the best QB on the Chiefs roster from 2006-2008 and it isn't even close. People tend to forget that the Chiefs won nine games with Huard in 2006, started off 4-3 and led the AFC West before he was lost for the season in 2007.

And those were some supremely undertalented and old teams.
KC won 9 games. Huard threw 20 passes a game vs LJ carrying the ball 40 times per game.

We played Martyball, and Huard had a nice little brief moment in 2006. As soon as defenses had a good amount of tape on him, he became a shitty QB because he's a shitty QB. I call it the "Tommy Maddox" effect. It's when a shitty QB looks good for 6 or so games because nobody knows his tendencies. Once pro defenses have them on tape, they get eaten alive.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:20 AM   #36
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Let the record show that Andy Reid would not have needed to coach Geno to "be more aggressive."
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:22 AM   #37
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Let the record show that Andy Reid would not have needed to coach Geno to "be more aggressive."
Well that's great.

I hope you realize that if Geno sucks in NY everyone here looks like a retard.

The guy wasn't RGIII and nobody in the NFL thought he was as good as Chiefs Planet did. If he's a star, he will shine. No excuses about him going to NY.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:33 AM   #38
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Let the record show that Andy Reid would not have needed to coach Geno to "be more aggressive."
Let the record show that Reid decided he would rather coach Alex to be more aggressive than have Geno.

Andy Reid, you know the guy, the QB guru.


Tells you all you need to know doesn't it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:44 AM   #39
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So Harbaugh didn't feel comfortable letting Smith throw down the field, but Reid does. It will be interesting to see how it plays out, I hope it works.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:55 AM   #40
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I can't believe people here are acting mad because Reid is trying to expand Smith's approach.

I mean are we really taking the 'How DARE Andy Reid ask Alex Smith to be more aggressive!" road? Is it a bad thing for the coach to see the limits of the QB's abilities?

Jesus people. Get a grip. I'm no Alex Smith fan, but this is an area almost everyone here has blasted Smith for. Why are you pissed? Yeah, it likely won't work. It's not a BAD thing for a coach to attempt to make a QB better though. It's called coaching.
Because it's the exact reason most people didn't want Alex Smith in the first place.

Next year, we can trade for Matt Cassel and maybe Reid can coach HIM to throw the deep pass! He'll only be 32. Prime learnin' years! We'd be fools NOT to do it.
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Old 06-06-2013, 06:55 AM   #41
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I can't believe people here are acting mad because Reid is trying to expand Smith's approach.

I mean are we really taking the 'How DARE Andy Reid ask Alex Smith to be more aggressive!" road? Is it a bad thing for the coach to see the limits of the QB's abilities?

Jesus people. Get a grip. I'm no Alex Smith fan, but this is an area almost everyone here has blasted Smith for. Why are you pissed? Yeah, it likely won't work. It's not a BAD thing for a coach to attempt to make a QB better though. It's called coaching.
Take that common sense shit talk somewhere else! It is not tolerated here! Jump on the "bash the KC QB" bandwagon or move on!






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If by 'Agressive' I hope they mean stretching the field vertically, rather than horizontally.

the last 4 years have been atrocious in attacking with the pass beyond 15 friggin' yards.
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Because it's the exact reason most people didn't want Alex Smith in the first place.

Next year, we can trade for Matt Cassel and maybe Reid can coach HIM to throw the deep pass! He'll only be 32. Prime learnin' years! We'd be fools NOT to do it.
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Let the record show that Reid decided he would rather coach Alex to be more aggressive than have Geno.

Andy Reid, you know the guy, the QB guru.


Tells you all you need to know doesn't it.
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It may be too late to teach an old dog new tricks; but, I applaud Reid for trying. If Alex does not learn new tricks, we have a couple of mediocre years and he is gone, like we have all been warning.

Maybe, just maybe, an old dog can get comfortable enough to take a chance. I'm all for it. Either he'll become a better QB and might be worth a damn until a rookie (Bray) is ready, or he'll show Reid that he really is a bad QB that can do nothing more than be Captain Checkdown. In such a case, Reid will abandon him all the sooner. Either way we win.
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