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Old 06-10-2013, 08:33 AM  
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Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

The NSA leaker has come forward in a June 9 interview on The Guardian, the British media outlet that broke the story of the NSA acquisition of phone records and access to online activity. Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA, has come forward to identify himself as the NSA whistleblower being sought in the release of NSA files. He said he is not hiding because he has not done anything wrong.

Snowden is currently an employee of a defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, and he has previously worked for various others. This has put him inside the National Security Agency for the last four years.

The NSA leaker, aware that he would be facing the ire of the U.S. government, made the choice to sacrifice his comfortable life in Hawaii and $200,000 salary to make the public aware of the depth of the privacy infringements that he claims exist. He says he doesn't want to live in a society like that.

The NSA leaker was a former CIA tech assistant

"The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to," he said.

You can view Edward Snowden's video interview here.: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-surveillance

The technology specialist is "holed up" in a motel in Hong Kong, basically waiting for the other shoe to drop.

He wrote a note that went with the second set of documents, according to The Guardian:

"I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

The head of NSA, James Clapper, has reported the leaks of the NSA documents as a crime. You can read about that here.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:39 AM   #31
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that hit like a ton of bricks, for sure. I am not sure of his accuracy in any of this, but I do know covert gov't missions are at an all time overload. I don't like sneaky behavior -- especially from my gov't. There are certainly times where sneaky is the right way, but when sneaky becomes SOP then it has come time to reveal/remove those weakasses in power.
So, I don't understand what you meant with your comment. Even Snowden's WP contact said that he tends to be a bit on the melodramatic side.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:52 AM   #32
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So, I don't understand what you meant with your comment. Even Snowden's WP contact said that he tends to be a bit on the melodramatic side.
does "melodramatic" read "liar" to you, or?
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:53 AM   #33
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So, you think he's accurate about the White House death teams?
The guy talking about death squads is Daniel Ellsberg, a whistleblower/traitor during the Nixon administration, not Edward Snowden.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:54 AM   #34
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does "melodramatic" read "liar" to you, or?
Possibly.
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:58 AM   #35
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:59 AM   #36
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BTW, Snowden is no hero to me. Without necessarily having all the information I need for a final conclusion, he seems like a traitor.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:00 AM   #37
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BTW, Snowden is no hero to me. Without necessarily having all the information I need for a final conclusion, he seems like a traitor.
Wow.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:01 AM   #38
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We are now the country that people seek asylum from.
Exactly.

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Old 06-10-2013, 11:03 AM   #39
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BTW, Snowden is no hero to me. Without necessarily having all the information I need for a final conclusion, he seems like a traitor.
Unlike some, yes, I'm going reserve judgment until there's more information.

I do find some of the details highly suspicious already.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:03 AM   #40
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:07 AM   #41
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We are now the country that people seek asylum from.
That tends to happen when you reveal secret information.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:11 AM   #42
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While I'm no fan of the data mining, the thread title is such a perfect encapsulation of the ridiculous levels of hyperbole the anti-Obama camp engages in.

GREATEST AMERICAN HERO EVER!!!


wtf?
I am not really on either side of the isle but I have to almost agree with the title if everything that has been said is true. The guy is taking a huge risk to his life to uncover some pretty vile shit being done by the government. Keyword in that last sentence is government. It isn't just Obama, it looks like it is Democrat and Republican alike. There are people on both sides of the aisle that know about this and have let it go on.

Is he the greatest amercan hero ever? Probably not but I would put him up there as a great hero for taking the risk to protect my freedom.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:14 AM   #43
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I just finished viewing the 12 min video link in the OP. I think he's an articulate american with a legit gripe that made a commendable effort. The story per se, is nothing more than we have already read about with regard to the invasion of privacy. This guy just put his face on it /story
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BTW, Snowden is no hero to me. Without necessarily having all the information I need for a final conclusion, he seems like a traitor.
Agreed. He had numerous avenues for reporting what he believed to be illegal: Department Inspector General, Government Whistleblower hotline, possibly even a congressman or senator.

He decided to go to a foreign journalist instead.
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I don't see him as a hero at all.
That's not surprising. Everyone has always know that you're a part of the problem.
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