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Old 06-10-2013, 08:33 AM  
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Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

Eric Snowden: Greatest American Hero Ever?

The NSA leaker has come forward in a June 9 interview on The Guardian, the British media outlet that broke the story of the NSA acquisition of phone records and access to online activity. Edward Snowden, a 29-year-old former technical assistant for the CIA, has come forward to identify himself as the NSA whistleblower being sought in the release of NSA files. He said he is not hiding because he has not done anything wrong.

Snowden is currently an employee of a defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton, and he has previously worked for various others. This has put him inside the National Security Agency for the last four years.

The NSA leaker, aware that he would be facing the ire of the U.S. government, made the choice to sacrifice his comfortable life in Hawaii and $200,000 salary to make the public aware of the depth of the privacy infringements that he claims exist. He says he doesn't want to live in a society like that.

The NSA leaker was a former CIA tech assistant

"The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to," he said.

You can view Edward Snowden's video interview here.: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...r-surveillance

The technology specialist is "holed up" in a motel in Hong Kong, basically waiting for the other shoe to drop.

He wrote a note that went with the second set of documents, according to The Guardian:

"I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions," but "I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant."

The head of NSA, James Clapper, has reported the leaks of the NSA documents as a crime. You can read about that here.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:20 PM   #76
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:23 PM   #77
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I came to the conclusion that it was illegal when I read the Fourth Amendment. I came to the conclusion that the Patriot Act was Illegal the same way. The fact that our government has written down words on paper and voted on illegal laws does not make them any less illegal.
OK, fair enough. I just wanted to verify that it is 'illegal' based solely on your opinion and interpretation of the Consitution and not any other law.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:26 PM   #78
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:27 PM   #79
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This guy is in huge trouble IMO. Rep Peter King (R) thinks he needs to extradited quickly and put on trial.
Peter King has always been a totalitarian ass who demanded more govt cameras on street corners.
He represents what is wrong with our govt today.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:28 PM   #80
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Agent provocateur coming to get our guns?

Nope just such similar stuff happening during the same time.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:29 PM   #81
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Nope just such similar stuff happening during the same time.
Meh. You were wrong. No big deal.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:30 PM   #82
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This guy is in huge trouble IMO.
You don't say..
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:31 PM   #83
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Agreed. He had numerous avenues for reporting what he believed to be illegal: Department Inspector General, Government Whistleblower hotline, possibly even a congressman or senator.
Seriously, you think those guys are really going to police themselves. They're all the same govt.

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He decided to go to a foreign journalist instead.
Well, gee, the Germans and Russians had to rely on foreign media to break stories about their own respective totalitarian regimes. So now Americans must now depend on the Guardian, Daily Mail or even Russian TV ( whose reported some very good material).
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:32 PM   #84
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Meh. You were wrong. No big deal.
What is worse than a sheep? A sheep that shills for govt wrongdoing.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #85
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What is worse than a sheep? A sheep that shills for govt wrongdoing.
Kooks who can't acknowledge their own kookiness, and can't have a laugh when their kookiness is exposed as being horribly wrong and inaccurate.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:34 PM   #86
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Goddamn, there are a lot of bootlickers on this site!
I assume the "bootlickers" are the people who actually look at the facts and look at the law when deciding if something is "illegal". Sometimes, you reach a conclusion that doesn't precisely match up with your personal feelings on the issue. It is possible to be 'against something' while at the same time believing that it is legal.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:36 PM   #87
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I'm sure you guys would have been all in favor of prosecuting Deep Throat for his leaks on Watergate as well.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:36 PM   #88
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I assume the "bootlickers" are the people who actually look at the facts and look at the law when deciding if something is "illegal". Sometimes, you reach a conclusion that doesn't precisely match up with your personal feelings on the issue. It is possible to be 'against something' while at the same time believing that it is legal.
It's a common symptom of the type of people who support Ron Paul-types: have an opinion and desperately try to make the facts meet those opinions, instead of vice versa.

A strange way to go about life, honestly.
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I'm sure you guys would have been all in favor of prosecuting Deep Throat for his leaks on Watergate as well.
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Old 06-10-2013, 12:41 PM   #90
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Giving data to a private third party does not mean the govt has an automatic right to access it. The Constitution is supposed to restrain the Federal govt not private entities that sell your information for money.

I don't care what some black robed deity from the state has decided in the past. We already know they can and do increase power but expand it DESPITE the restraints of the Constitution. And I am not sure all the facts of an earlier case apply to abuse by setting up a room in places like AT&T to collect your data.
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